Mentor Requirements

[xxmiamorecadenza]

If the mentor system was, hypothetically, removed from the game.

How big of a loss would it even be?

[SturmChurro]

If the mentor system was, hypothetically, removed from the game.

How big of a loss would it even be?

Many mentors would probably throw a huge fit, create some threads here, reddit, spam twitter, etc.. They'd be losing their chat channel (NN) - which is the biggest blow for many. Overall, removal of the mentor system would be better for the game, I think. No real loss.

[xxmiamorecadenza]

Many mentors would probably throw a huge fit, create some threads here, reddit, spam twitter, etc.. They'd be losing their chat channel (NN) - which is the biggest blow for many. Overall, removal of the mentor system would be better for the game, I think. No real loss.

Agreed, tbh.

[Kaurhz]

Many mentors would probably throw a huge fit, create some threads here, reddit, spam twitter, etc.. They'd be losing their chat channel (NN) - which is the biggest blow for many. Overall, removal of the mentor system would be better for the game, I think. No real loss.

Honestly, remove the crown entirely. Retain the roulette and the novice network and just have an indication within the Novice Network that someone is a Mentor [M], or Sprout [S], removing the vanity aspects of the crown and leave it at that.

[Jeeqbit]

If the mentor system was, hypothetically, removed from the game.

How big of a loss would it even be?

The novice network helps hundreds of sprouts and returners every single day answering their questions, I see it on every server I go to on many data centers... I am not seeing much of this toxicity that people claim is in the novice network, just deeply thankful sprouts and returners.

The sprouts and returners are who would lose out if it didn't exist.

There might be one or two odd servers with poor novice networks but again they tend to be full of trade mentors who came from other MMOs to raid and just fill the chat with raid-related discussion, when it's supposed to be about new player things.

[xxmiamorecadenza]

The novice network helps hundreds of sprouts and returners every single day answering their questions, I see it on every server I go to on many data centers... I am not seeing much of this toxicity that people claim is in the novice network, just deeply thankful sprouts and returners.

The sprouts and returners are who would lose out if it didn't exist.

There might be one or two odd servers with poor novice networks but again they tend to be full of trade mentors who came from other MMOs to raid and just fill the chat with raid-related discussion, when it's supposed to be about new player things.

As someone who didn't have access to NN as a sprout due to accidentally leaving it early on. I'm fairly certain people can make do without.

[Jeeqbit]

As someone who didn't have access to NN as a sprout due to accidentally leaving it early on. I'm fairly certain people can make do without.

Of course they can, but it's extremely helpful and there is no reason to take away such a helpful place that lots of sprouts come to love.

[GeminiReed]

The novice network helps hundreds of sprouts and returners every single day answering their questions, I see it on every server I go to on many data centers... I am not seeing much of this toxicity that people claim is in the novice network, just deeply thankful sprouts and returners.

The sprouts and returners are who would lose out if it didn't exist.

Right on. buuutttt....

There might be one or two odd servers with poor novice networks but again they tend to be full of trade mentors who came from other MMOs to raid and just fill the chat with raid-related discussion, when it's supposed to be about new player things.

What's with the Trade Mentor hate? Jealous much?

I'll match your anecdote with my own which was the exact opposite of your experience. For the brief time I was involved with NN it was the battle and full crown mentors screwing around. I left because one of them decided that discussing US politics during the presidential election was the thing to do there.

Much like trade mentors, battle mentors are a test of how much grinding you're willing to put up with. That has zero bearing on how helpful or knowledgeable somebody is. I've seen helpful people from all categories, battle, trade, and even several sprouts. I've also seen less than helpful folks from the same and quite a few disruptive folks as well.

[Awha]

Right on. buuutttt....


What's with the Trade Mentor hate? Jealous much?

I'll match your anecdote with my own which was the exact opposite of your experience. For the brief time I was involved with NN it was the battle and full crown mentors screwing around. I left because one of them decided that discussing US politics during the presidential election was the thing to do there.

Much like trade mentors, battle mentors are a test of how much grinding you're willing to put up with. That has zero bearing on how helpful or knowledgeable somebody is. I've seen helpful people from all categories, battle, trade, and even several sprouts. I've also seen less than helpful folks from the same and quite a few disruptive folks as well.

Trade mentor requirements can be met in an afternoon or two. All mentor requirements are a joke, but in terms of easiest and quickest to get trade bar none.

[Jeeqbit]

What's with the Trade Mentor hate? Jealous much?

As I've said there are some great trade mentors, but it's just an observation that too many of them get it too quickly. Instead of sharing actual experience of the game, a lot of them just quote what they've read because they are still relatively new to the game. Plenty of them get the status while still doing Stormblood, and most of the worst novice networks are full of trade mentors.

In my opinion, most battle mentors become this through normal gameplay instead of grinding for it, because what they say and do demonstrates they are a really experienced player.