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  1. #31
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    Arkevorkhat's Avatar
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    Arkevorkhat Caelras
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    Siren
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    Machinist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by EdenArchangel View Post
    Also if you just want the glow we've had shiny tools since patch 3.5, from 4 years ago. They're under the respective craft/gather achievement list
    They're great and all, but those tools are just different, it's really cool that SE gave us the choice of which glowing tools we wanted to get, I personally am not a fan of the models they chose for the Aesthete (and by extension the achievement) tools, so I value the skybuilders' tools quite highly.
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  2. #32
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    Zfz's Avatar
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    Celenir Istarkh
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    Atomos
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    Shiny is good. Shiny is like.

    I looked over the general process (haven't actually done it) and I like how at least the first two stages we're not just sitting around waiting for timed nodes. I absolutely hate timed nodes.

    I'm however in the camp that the reward could be better.

    Maybe the crafted HQ could have a tool+3pc or tool+4pc set bonus, to make it always the better choice with quad/penta-melding, but without the gear parts to activate the bonus the relic becomes better than a penta-melded crafted HQ tool (when comparing only the tool). This should make the relic the go-to for casual players, and the penta-melded crafted set the ultimate end-game gear. Maybe even make the crafted tool untradable to give it that end-game prestige.

    But shiny is good. Yeah. Shiny is nice.
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  3. #33
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    Alijana Tumet
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    Cactuar
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    Ninja Lv 100
    The tools are a valid sidegrade from the overmelded aesthete's tools as is (Except for the fishing pole which is straight up better in every regard), so I don't think they need to be improved further.

    Their main selling point is that they mostly demand your time as opposed to money.

    We're also apparently still getting more new tools in 5.5, so it's possible those may be more optimized then the skybuilder's tools (Which tend to overbudget on gathering/craftsmanship).
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  4. #34
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    Shai Rae
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    Seraph
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    Dancer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Espritduo View Post
    Yes? I was giving MY honest opinion of the relics in a thread about the relics. Sorry it isn't 100% positive, but it's how I feel about them.
    Last time I checked, he wasn't asking for your personal opinion.
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  5. #35
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    Deithwen Feainnewedd
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    Phoenix
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    Pugilist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by DynnDiablos View Post
    Last time I checked, he wasn't asking for your personal opinion.
    How dare you respond to a public topic on a discussion forum! What? You even gave your opinion on something? So rude!
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  6. #36
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    Bella Ciao
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    Balmung
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    Red Mage Lv 80
    Personally, I enjoy the glows, they look good, and I felt all the models I’ve seen so far are exceptionally well done.

    I plan on doing one a week, that basically converts custom deliveries rewards to mats which takes out any unnecessary scrip farming.

    Also, you can turn sky builder scrips in for mats, so if you take the time to farm the other mats in diadem, you can circumvent yellow scrips altogether, or at least supplement them.

    The final step doesn’t take much more than a couple hours, it’s not the exhaustive grind people are making it out to be if you have been doing each step as they come along.

    Comparing the relic to the aesthetes I had, I just dumped the greens, it didn’t seem to me I wouldn’t be able to do anything I couldn’t do otherwise.
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  7. #37
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    Deceptus Keelon
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    Behemoth
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    Sage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Zfz View Post
    Maybe the crafted HQ could have a tool+3pc or tool+4pc set bonus, to make it always the better choice with quad/penta-melding, but without the gear parts to activate the bonus the relic becomes better than a penta-melded crafted HQ tool (when comparing only the tool). This should make the relic the go-to for casual players, and the penta-melded crafted set the ultimate end-game gear. Maybe even make the crafted tool untradable to give it that end-game prestige.
    Or. . . Y'know. . . Freaking MATERIA SLOTS? 2 would be nice, 5 would be ideal.
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    Veteran healers don't care if we need to heal, but right now we don't. We want interesting things to do during the downtime other than a 30s dot and a single filler spell that hasn't changed from lvl 4 to lvl 90.
    Dead DPS do no DPS. Raised DPS do 25/50% lower DPS. Do the mechanics and don't stand in bad stuff.
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