Skybuilder's tools (510 shiny)

[Vickii]

I have some thoughts.

1) I thought and think it’s best in slot, although marginally. If you’re saying it’s not, it’s still pretty irrelevant at this point. You can literally make anything in the game with it and it will carry through until the end of next expansion.

2) it’s very good looking. However I’m disappointed no dye option for the final stage as the other stages had it. Still hoping one final fix for this. But it’s a cute weapon and the glow is nice.

3) I was a bit underwhelmed by the quest line personally. I felt tying weaver, fisher and botanist into essentially the exact same thing didn’t really feel epic. I felt it was too much of ‘get 80 of this’ now ‘get 160 of this’. I kept hoping they’d change the formula and was glad when they added in collectibles and expert crafts but overall it was more monotonous grind than it was fun. The quest itself didn’t really feel epic in anyway, it was just kinda ‘we’re going to make a great tool’. I was hoping it would be more themed around restoring ishgard.

4) despite this I did really like the idea and do hope they continue with it. I really would like more separation between land and hand at least though. They kinda got this with the crust around quests and it’s a shame it didn’t really carry over to the relic.

[Vickii]

I have some thoughts.

1) I thought and think it’s best in slot, although marginally. If you’re saying it’s not, it’s still pretty irrelevant at this point. You can literally make anything in the game with it and it will carry through until the end of next expansion.

2) it’s very good looking. However I’m disappointed no dye option for the final stage as the other stages had it. Still hoping one final fix for this. But it’s a cute weapon and the glow is nice.

3) I was a bit underwhelmed by the quest line personally. I felt tying weaver, fisher and botanist into essentially the exact same thing didn’t really feel epic. I felt it was too much of ‘get 80 of this’ now ‘get 160 of this’. I kept hoping they’d change the formula and was glad when they added in collectibles and expert crafts but overall it was more monotonous grind than it was fun. The quest itself didn’t really feel epic in anyway, it was just kinda ‘we’re going to make a great tool’. I was hoping it would be more themed around restoring ishgard.

4) despite this I did really like the idea and do hope they continue with it. I really would like more separation between land and hand at least though. They kinda got this with the crust around quests and it’s a shame it didn’t really carry over to the relic.

*with the crystarium quests

[Vickii]

Relic is supposed to be casual. The last step of this relic requires an EXPERT level craft which is the hardest crafting content in the game.

It's akin to requiring savage raiding for the DoW/DoM relics.

It’s a low level expert recipe you have to make, the one from an early stage of ishgard restoration which with current gear is very easy. It’s not comparable to the latest expert recipe in difficulty. Technically it’s probably the third/fourth hardest recipe in the game, but if you have the gear it can be macrod and if you don’t have the gear you don’t need this.

Also the DOW/DOM relics up to now, asides from SB, required extreme trials which is pretty much a fair comparison. This is probably easier for a crafter with decent gear to get than doing extreme Ifrit back in ARR honestly.

Relic is supposed to be accessible, not casual. Big difference. They do seem to be going that way with the current DOW/DOM relic, but all others actually required you to be fairly decent when done at level (doing the anima relic today isn’t the same thing).

[Reap00]

Just a shout out that THIS was perfect. the grind work, the effort, the time, the reward.

I loved everything about the Skybuilders relic lines, and I LOVE how my crafting table lights up!!!

Really hope to see more of this in the future! ♥

I agree with you man. Some people just live to complain. Ignore it and move on.

[MsQi]

The tools are nice, but I agree that for the effort they should be the best stats possible. At least for the crafting ones. The Botanist and Miner ones are almost too easy.

It would be nice to have a matching secondary tool as well.

[EdenArchangel]

Also if you just want the glow we've had shiny tools since patch 3.5, from 4 years ago. They're under the respective craft/gather achievement list

[Cirque-it]

Also if you just want the glow we've had shiny tools since patch 3.5, from 4 years ago. They're under the respective craft/gather achievement list

Point me in that direction please :-)
I didnt even know there where others

[Arkevorkhat]

Also if you just want the glow we've had shiny tools since patch 3.5, from 4 years ago. They're under the respective craft/gather achievement list

They're great and all, but those tools are just different, it's really cool that SE gave us the choice of which glowing tools we wanted to get, I personally am not a fan of the models they chose for the Aesthete (and by extension the achievement) tools, so I value the skybuilders' tools quite highly.

[Cirque-it]

Thanks @Doozer

[Zfz]

Shiny is good. Shiny is like.

I looked over the general process (haven't actually done it) and I like how at least the first two stages we're not just sitting around waiting for timed nodes. I absolutely hate timed nodes.

I'm however in the camp that the reward could be better.

Maybe the crafted HQ could have a tool+3pc or tool+4pc set bonus, to make it always the better choice with quad/penta-melding, but without the gear parts to activate the bonus the relic becomes better than a penta-melded crafted HQ tool (when comparing only the tool). This should make the relic the go-to for casual players, and the penta-melded crafted set the ultimate end-game gear. Maybe even make the crafted tool untradable to give it that end-game prestige.

But shiny is good. Yeah. Shiny is nice.