Quote Originally Posted by Shibi View Post
Not sure it is. Let's stick to vendor gear bought from NPC's as that rules out marketboard fluctuations. A pair of level 70 Gazelleskin shoes in Kugane is G21,859. Just average work boots. https://ffxiv.gamerescape.com/wiki/Gazelleskin_Shoes

Let's equate that G21,859 to a rathr average pair of work boots on Amazon https://www.amazon.com/Timberland-PR.../dp/B000XEX0Z0 as an example for US$95.

So, G1 = US$0.0043 (A bit under half a USA cent)

A 10,000 gil steak - served to you - is about US$43.21 based on NPC valuation.

What's a steak at a place like Outback cost? $35.00 ( https://online.flippingbook.com/view/250386/ has their menu )

So, is it really that far off the mark? It's not like Outback is Haute Cuisine, from what I hear.
And yet the most expensive steak in game is less than 500gil.

But again, it's not an IC justification here.

Take the prices you see here, and take the prices other people here have said they've been charge real gil for like 5000gil for an apple juice or another I've spotted where it's 4000gil for tea. Then take a look at price lists of venues that don't charge real gil. You'll find a big difference in prices. Typically you'd see around the 500gil range, some low balling to less than 100gil, the highest I've seen is around for 1,500 and that was for a very substantial meal.

At the end of the day the prices are designed to make money from players and are not based on in world logic or in-character logic.

Quote Originally Posted by Teppie View Post
Getting a lot of gil isn't really all that hard. You can find a venue that doesn't charge for drinks/food, you can discuss the RP idea with the venue operators to see if they'll play along with your RP concept. You can define new elements to your character that makes him more stingy. That seems to be creating a problem when there are obvious solutions. I don't really charge for food and drinks at my venue because I don't like putting that kind of effort into accepting gil. I'll just let people tip, and all our food is an in-RP offering anyways without the inventory clutter.
In this hypothetical situation I'd get turned away by one of these bars. Given the OP complained about how scarce and difficult it is to get RP on those datacentres, turning away a legit RPer with a legit character concept because they don't have the real gil to pay for RP would exclude me from RP until I could raise sufficient funds to play that character concept. Especially if it was a new character on a data centre I don't have access to money I have here (if talking specifically me) or if say it was a new or newish player doing this. Or somebody who didn't have money making down or heck, didn't fancy siphoning off lots of real gil away because their character is so frivolous.

I would have to seek out free venues like you mention, but from what the OP is saying and other posters are saying, charge high prices with real gil is the norm, so it sounds like my choice of free venues would be limited. Either way, it doesn't feel like a positive thing at all for this being the norm.