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    Ariel_Valmont's Avatar
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    Bella Ciao
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    Red Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by wereotter View Post
    It's close, but this isn't entirely accurate. Enochian has a duration of 30 seconds, making it closer to Blood of the Dragon than Greased Lightning. Greased Lightning had a duration of only 16 seconds and until a recent patch, prior to its transition to a trait, couldn't be maintained with Form Shift, making Enochian not only much more likely to be maintained through boss transitions or cutscenes, but also has for several years been able to be maintained through Transpose and Umbral Soul.

    Additionally the punishment for losing Enochian wasn't as severe as the punishment for losing Greased Lightning. They both dropped you 15% damage, but the monk also lost 20% attack speed, and while Enochian could be reapplied with the press of a single button, the best option a monk had for recovering Greased Lightning was using Perfect Balance, and if that was on cooldown for any reason, it would take 10-12 GCDs in order to get it back up to full again.
    The recast timer on enochian is 30 seconds, it’s duration is tied to astral fire/umbral ice which is not 30 seconds. It’s 15 seconds, hence why you have to refresh it with fire 1 after 3 fire 4s. So if you space the refresh, you have another 15 seconds before you can recast enochian. If you have poor spell speed, maintaining it becomes harder. Also, unless you have umbral ice or astral fire up you cannot cast enochian, so you have to press at least 2 buttons to get it up... and for some reason if you mana starved yourself you better hope you have a mana pot to use (not on cd) or that manafont is off cd.

    Enochian does not survive boss transitions or cutscenes. At most youre making it through the platform transition in refulgence, but you could do that on MNK as well if you were smart about it.

    Did losing greased lightning result in a more severe punishment, maybe, I don’t have the data to refute or corroborate that claim.

    Umbral soul is a level 76 spell and was new to shadowbringers, it hasn’t been around for several years. Transpose isn’t used to refresh enochian, unless your in dire straits. (I’m aware it does, but it’s not ideal nor part of the rotation)

    Knowing the fight was key to keeping greased lightning up, you didn’t burn PB when you knew a transition was coming up and you needed it.
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    Antony Gabbiani
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    Faerie
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    Viper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Ariel_Valmont View Post
    Umbral soul is a level 76 spell and was new to shadowbringers, it hasn’t been around for several years. Transpose isn’t used to refresh enochian, unless your in dire straits. (I’m aware it does, but it’s not ideal nor part of the rotation)
    Point here is that for years before monk got its ability to refresh GL with Form Shift, black mage had the option, at the very least, to keep up the enochian buff 100% of the time with the hit of a single button, meaning that if a boss became untargetable for too long a period, the black mage could maintain their job-specific buff while the monk could not. And there was a point in time that the black mage could reapply that buff with the press of a single button on a 30 second cooldown while the monk equivalent of perfect balance had a 120 second cooldown.

    This is why I say that while there are similarities between the two, in my experience playing both jobs, monk was far more punishing during down time than black mage.
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