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    Quote Originally Posted by technole View Post


    Yep, I posted this TEA clears graph in that previous ultimate cancelled thread. It's getting a bit old but I think it describes very well why some in NA doesn't think there are many clears. It's just simply living in bubble mentality, or being on Crystal I guess:

    Those are small numbers though, compared to the overall population. It's not a bubble ;/

    I mean maybe you look at that and think "hardest content in the game and look at that, 10,000+ characters!!" but I look at that and go "10,000 still the minority". Which doesn't mean the content shouldn't exist (honestly does seem like a bummer- ideally everyone is getting it all.. cause.. why not right?, if it was content I had really wanted that was cut I would feel a bit miffed about it), but I think its quite accurate to call that as not very many clears.

    Averaging it all together (with population considerations) leaves ultimate around like 1 - 2% of the population, last time I saw this done at least. Even if it is now like 5-8%, that's still very small. And being careful with the math as I saw last time someone was trying to directly average the % rather than account for server size differences (Japanese would boost the average, Crystal tanks it lol). That and I also saw some use of data that would clearly be biased since it was for those who specifically wanted to track their achievements (so they could get the achievements they don't have, making it a place for achievement hunters and not the general population- which explains why those sites often have larger numbers than Lucky Bancho who as far as I know crawls the lodestone pages).

    Of course only SE really has the best data, since they could work out the accounts as well. Maybe it's even more since account based it's not repeating much or.. maybe it's even worse and it's many players who played one character doing it again on another. Which if we go by their actions suggests that what people say is probably accurate (wouldn't cut / delay so much a content that was massively desired by a large portion of the community unless you were crazy, assuming they're not crazy then makes the content likely to be minority content).

    Although I know this comes around to being a bit frustrating since there are some players who do really enjoy the content and then they have people saying "you're the minority so you don't deserve to have that content made" (paraphrasing), which to be clear is not what I'm saying. I really want to have chocobo hot and cold but honestly I'm not sure how many want that with me lol. Ultimately I just want to say that it does seem quite accurate to maintain the idea that 'few players take part in that content' (not a bubble). The vast majority of players are not doing ultimate, but that doesn't mean ultimate doesn't have a home. Just like there are few Roe or Hroth (honestly I think there would be more Hroth than roe if we had females lol), but I think it's good you've got the big burly man and thic--.. strong girl and as well the beast race even though they will never compare to miqote.
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    Last edited by Shougun; 03-06-2021 at 11:04 AM.