How difficult is Ultimate?

[ForteNightshade]

Personally we are already in a content lull now, will have stuff soon in April, then will continue the lull again a bit after that until Endwalker.

Oh, I agree. Shadowbringers is more or less over, sadly. We have whatever's left of Bozja and an EX Primal as "repeatable" content. It's going to be a very long lull to considering Endwalker likely won't come until September or October. Frankly, there just isn't enough to do but that's a whole separate topic.

[NanaWiloh]

When I see people calling Ultimate easy begs the question. Did they clear while it was current with no Higher Ilvl gear avalible or did they cheese it and clear after better gear came out? If you cleared while it was relevant brag away if not then you got no business calling it easy. I am someone who as a gamer has cheesed and cheated at more then my fair share of games and I dont call games I have cheesed or cheated at easy.

[technole]

When I see people calling Ultimate easy begs the question. Did they clear while it was current with no Higher Ilvl gear avalible or did they cheese it and clear after better gear came out? If you cleared while it was relevant brag away if not then you got no business calling it easy. I am someone who as a gamer has cheesed and cheated at more then my fair share of games and I dont call games I have cheesed or cheated at easy.

It's challenging content, that's proven across the board otherwise the clear rates would be up there with savage.

I do agree there is a difference sense of people calling ultimate "easy" when they didn't clear it during the same savage tier it came out. Like if you cleared all three in 2020, that's a bit different. There is the after-effect of clearing later like I mentioned of having better dungeon gear with the +5 ilvl, and better strats that have been tried and proven to cut down on DPS checks, and to allow for more errors. Like UwU nowadays you can practically add up dead bodies over time and still be comfy on enrage. Not to cut down the accomplishment, just people calling it easy is not telling the full story.

Same ordeal with people who cleared Eden's Verse last tier in i500 gear will say the tier is easy versus the first month gang that had to work their way up with early strats and ilvl. Like some healers got a wake up call when Eden's Promise came out and they realized they actually needed to heal at min ilvl.

[NanaWiloh]

It's challenging content, that's proven across the board otherwise the clear rates would be up there with savage.

I do agree there is a difference sense of people calling ultimate "easy" when they didn't clear it during the same savage tier it came out. Like if you cleared all three in 2020, that's a bit different. There is the after-effect of clearing later like I mentioned of having better dungeon gear with the +5 ilvl, and better strats that have been tried and proven to cut down on DPS checks, and to allow for more errors. Like UwU nowadays you can practically add up dead bodies over time and still be comfy on enrage. Not to cut down the accomplishment, just people calling it easy is not telling the full story.

Same ordeal with people who cleared Eden's Verse last tier in i500 gear will say the tier is easy versus the first month gang that had to work their way up with early strats and ilvl. Like some healers got a wake up call when Eden's Promise came out and they realized they actually needed to heal at min ilvl.

I have never done Savage or Ultimate, though I want too my life simply does not allow it. lol I know the life does not allow it has been heard a million times, but not everyone can just simply re-adjust their life to get more free time. :P