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    Can never complain with more HP, and I'm glad they have finally revised blocking for Boss status enemies!

    Hmm, I hope that the revision of Goring Blade, Riot Blade and Rage of Halone will be the positioning of said skill. Since all attacks are generally used from behind, I would assume so.

    Time to wait patiently.
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    lols I have only af for black mage , altho i dont die offten in Iffrit I do die at least once (hell fire) /meh. that with a blah weapon I score 8k damage on average. (only having done blm on Iffrit like 5 times lol)
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    If somone is doing all that they know to do to build hate and is still having issues with keeping hate (assuming they know how to keep hate with PLD) then another viable source of hate build while everything else is on cool down is an AOE cure on pt members who have less the full hp.. or was that too hard to understand? sure you could use like twice the mp and cure one person and yourself or use less , build same if not more enmity on an aoe cure helping multiples in your party.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aceofspades View Post
    If somone is doing all that they know to do to build hate and is still having issues with keeping hate (assuming they know how to keep hate with PLD) then another viable source of hate build while everything else is on cool down is an AOE cure on pt members who have less the full hp.. or was that too hard to understand? sure you could use like twice the mp and cure one person and yourself or use less , build same if not more enmity on an aoe cure helping multiples in your party.....
    Hmm. I'd prefer if my cure spells where set for their intended use and have enmity charging skills have more of an impact, but I suppose it's a valid strategy. After all, Cure on PLD must reap hate for some reason.

    Thanks.

    I am serious by the way. I've been feeling relatively useless in battles as of late.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gramul View Post
    Hmm. I'd prefer if my cure spells where set for their intended use and have enmity charging skills have more of an impact, but I suppose it's a valid strategy. After all, Cure on PLD must reap hate for some reason.

    Thanks.

    I am serious by the way. I've been feeling relatively useless in battles as of late.
    ok Gramul, will take a minute for a full break down, at least of what I personally do. and because I have pld pretty much memorized to instinct I may miss somthing.
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    and also... how come thm/blm get hit by vulcan burst???
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    Aion Zwei - Masamune

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aion View Post
    and also... how come thm/blm get hit by vulcan burst???
    .... realy?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aceofspades View Post
    .... realy?
    Vulcan Burst
    Large AoE Fire Damage around Ifrit
    800~ damage

    what your thm/blm doing near ifrit?
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    Aion Zwei - Masamune

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    Hate Control:

    1possable , keep your party close enough to get the effects of Rampart
    2If timing alows, use sentinal before as many vokes, hate generating ablities as possable ( keep in mind rampart is not effected by sentinal)
    3obviously your simple vokes are flash, provoke and when you can , wardrum. all great when used back to back with sentinal
    4 combos, not as easy but should have little difficulty. fast blade to flat blade can be put on a macro, spam it as offten as you can. obvously you should know the spirits within combo, keep that one on your main bar as its use is situational (after a block) and if you have enough tp , pop shield bash when you can too.
    5 self heals/ party heals are usefull in hate generation and surviability.
    PLD's ability to consistantly generate hate reguardless of what kind of mob you face is what sets its hate generation appart from WAR, war requires to deal decent damage to compete , once you take that away (example, batrall) war generates less hate and far less self heals.

    Survivablity
    1 add def and vit to your gear, hp is nice, but pointless if normal damage is kicking your ass
    2 ageious boon is your best ability
    3 stone skin , well timed and or coupled with devine veil is awsome
    4 get a shield you can add materia to, and add def.
    5 self heals , self explanitory
    6 def / vit food works (lanascin toast) think i spelt that right.
    7 again Rampart, works great on magic too.
    9 did i mention stone skin, yeah, use it, alot.

    MP management

    well only realy two things you can do here,

    Devine veil coupled with outmonuver
    or cover with af top peice.
    sure you could get agious boon or mp song from bard but thats outside and unrealiable.

    damage dealing:

    -.- , your a tank. enough said.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aceofspades View Post
    Hate Control:

    1possable , keep your party close enough to get the effects of Rampart
    2If timing alows, use sentinal before as many vokes, hate generating ablities as possable ( keep in mind rampart is not effected by sentinal)
    3obviously your simple vokes are flash, provoke and when you can , wardrum. all great when used back to back with sentinal
    4 combos, not as easy but should have little difficulty. fast blade to flat blade can be put on a macro, spam it as offten as you can. obvously you should know the spirits within combo, keep that one on your main bar as its use is situational (after a block) and if you have enough tp , pop shield bash when you can too.
    5 self heals/ party heals are usefull in hate generation and surviability.
    PLD's ability to consistantly generate hate reguardless of what kind of mob you face is what sets its hate generation appart from WAR, war requires to deal decent damage to compete , once you take that away (example, batrall) war generates less hate and far less self heals.

    Survivablity
    1 add def and vit to your gear, hp is nice, but pointless if normal damage is kicking your ass
    2 ageious boon is your best ability
    3 stone skin , well timed and or coupled with devine veil is awsome
    4 get a shield you can add materia to, and add def.
    5 self heals , self explanitory
    6 def / vit food works (lanascin toast) think i spelt that right.
    7 again Rampart, works great on magic too.
    9 did i mention stone skin, yeah, use it, alot.

    MP management

    well only realy two things you can do here,

    Devine veil coupled with outmonuver
    or cover with af top peice.
    sure you could get agious boon or mp song from bard but thats outside and unrealiable.

    damage dealing:

    -.- , your a tank. enough said.
    Fantastic!
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