Current state of the residential area's

[EssJay]

Current state of the residential area's
I'm going to be bold here, me and my friend lost a house recently because we missed the 45 day deadline by 24 hours and have recently been waiting hours and hours by multiple plots and have seen the majority taken by someone relocating with one button when people without a house have been waiting 2-22 hours on more than one occasion. First of all who? and how? did someone think this was a fair decision to make? it encourages trolls who just relocate to waste people's time not only that but we all pay to play this game and I think it's a joke that you have your community waiting and spamming a button to buy a plot for 2-22 hours... a day! In my opinion it should be a first come first served basis and not have someone who waited 1 hour get the plot over someone who's waited 20 hours you're basically slapping your community in the face by doing this tell me I'm wrong.
Changes I want to see:
1. relocating should be abolished, if you have a house you should have to wait like everyone else and you should have to demolish your house to even be able to buy another.
2. 22 hours is far too long to have people waiting for a plot especially if they wait 22 hours and miss out.
3. I think it should be a first come first served basis.
4. you should not be able to relocate from a small to another small and only from a small to a medium or medium to a large (if point 1 doesn't happen).
5. there should be a minimum wait time for the time you demolish your house to be able to buy another say 24 hours, 1 week or even 1 month (to encourage people to be sure if they're buying a house they should stick with that house and be happy because you're lucky enough to have one on such a busy server).

[PewPewPewPewPew]

No.

Time for you to accept and get used to the fact that housing is a 2 to 3 step process.

1. Click war for a house.
2. Relocate to the next best house when available.
3. Repeat step 2 until you've reached your 'dream house'.

Everyone relocating had to click many hours before at some point. Get over it.

[DamianFatale]

No.

Time for you to accept and get used to the fact that housing is a 2 to 3 step process.

1. Click war for a house.
2. Relocate to the next best house when available.
3. Repeat step 2 until you've reached your 'dream house'.

Everyone relocating had to click many hours before at some point. Get over it.

The housing system is bad, it encourages toxic behavior like this, and it needs fixing. She shouldn't just have to "get over it".

[Catstab]

1. relocating should be abolished, if you have a house you should have to wait like everyone else and you should have to demolish your house to even be able to buy another.

Relocation was an improvement. The process of 'Empty, Demolish, Re-purchase' you describe was how housing worked before 2018. It was horrible. An FC can't let go of it's house if there are FC private chambers inside. So FCs that wanted to move would boot all of their members to demolish their rooms, then empty the house, then demolish it, then purchase the new house, then re-invite all FC members who would each pay 300k gil to re-purchase their FC private chambers, and then each member would collect their room's contents from Resident Caretaker. They have only 30 days to collect, if not their items are wiped permanently, including seasonal decorations and mog station cash shop items. Mind you, if you lost anyone's name or they don't log back on in the next couple days, they're gone for good. It's an FC killer, in some cases. It's really bad for a social game. You're asking for this to come back??! With relocation, members can stay in the FC and their private chamber decorations even stay intact each move.

The timer itself needs to go. Currently the relocation system dictates "you only camp once, and then you can move anywhere." You want to make every move a new camp? You're actually advocating for more pain for players, and more wasted hours. "100 hours camping and then 3 instant moves? How about 400 wasted hours instead? That'll teach you!"

The answer is NOT to make the process even more painful.

The only problem is if you take the timer out, what do you replace it with? The problem before the timer was that people would dash out to an open house, buy it, and then hold it ransom:

You are player A, you want a house.
Player B gets to the placard first, buys the house for 3 million gil.
Player B says "I dont actually want this. If you pay me 40 million gil, I'll leave and you can have it"
Player A pays player B 40 million gil.
Player B destroys his house.
Player A buys the house for 3 million gil.

This happened every day. Newer players like you, taxed 20 and 40 million gil by faster (or cheating) players. So the timer was created to make the process impossible, and stop the cheaters from taking their ransoms.

My personal suggestion is that we take the timer away, and boost placard pricing to 40 million gil small, 200 million medium, 500 million large. Then only players who actually craft/farm/play will be house shopping, and people who are still just getting into the game are out there playing it. edit: This would also add a gil sink of more than 30 billion gil per year per server to the game, and boy do we need one.

[EssJay]

I've been playing XIV since 2014 and I have almost 14K hours in the game I currently have 40+m gil I'm sorry but that's ridiculous 500m I've probably made just over 100m total since I 1st started playing I would lean more toward 10m small 35m medium and 80m large, I would absolutely not be player A because I hate people who try to make a profit in a video game you're a scumbag human being if you even do that! I'll say something else though I'd be happy with a token system where if you show up 1st and touch the placard 1st you get 1 token and when you sum up let's say 3 tokens you can buy the next plot that spawns or something like that at least.

[Illy_Peridot]

I agree that house prices should be at least doubled (maybe tripled?) from what they are now, but boosting it to the hundreds of millions would just encourage more people to either bot their way to riches or buy gil through RMT.

I think there should be a cooldown timer on house relocating, though - being able to jump houses immediately seems kind of unfair and I've seen some people grief by jumping between small plots with the relocate feature.

[Catstab]

I would absolutely not be player A

Plenty of people were, though. It was a common practice to find a reseller and pay them before paying the placard, securing your small house for 43,000,000 gil. The gil, more likely than not, was immediately sent into RMT circulation.

Unfortunately the only real solution is 'houses for everyone' where we get instanced housing or 80 wards to accommodate all players.

As long as we have these limited numbers of houses, something will have to determine who gets them and who doesn't. For now it's the timer.

And 500m for a large isn't all that crazy, considering each server only has enough larges for 432 players and 144 FCs to have them. You get about a million or two a week without having to do anything but keep up with roulettes and MB your tome/GC seal goods/materia. Dedicated money making techniques usually produce a million or two an hour. I think if you want to be in the top 432 players on your server, you can make money for ~250 hours without issue.

The system sucks, yes. But it sucked a lot more before relocation was a thing. I'm not saying things are good but this suggestion would only make things worse.

[EssJay]

I'm with Illy on this one price's doubled or tripled and like Illy said the majority of players only have the type of money you're talking would encourage more bots and gil sellers a cooldown timer 100% needs implementing against people who already have a house nobody should be able to instantly swap houses there's nothing fair about that wards need doubling I'm afraid instanced housing is a bad idea imo I'm really hoping that they're at the very least going to add 50% more wards to the game when they add Ishgard housing

[Catstab]

a cooldown timer

There is a cooldown timer. You can relocate once per five minutes. It costs millions. No ones doing it as joke.

nobody should be able to instantly swap houses

Again, relocation is never going away unless the timer as a whole goes away. This is a good thing. Read my passage above about how not being able to relocate can kill an FC.

If you disagree with relocation, you don't understand what you're asking for.

[EssJay]

relocating needs changing end of. Five minutes should be changed to at least a week people without a house have to wait up to 22 hours or longer as there's never just one guy waiting for a plot on Jenova we had two plots the other day in different places both had 10 people waiting for them... people with houses should be happy they even have a house rather than walking up past all those people waiting and buying it with 1 button push it's a joke I'm sorry but it is and I'm deadly serious when I say a week timer between buying plots I'd even say a month or 90 days