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    Vahlnir's Avatar
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    Elan Centauri
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    Diabolos
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk View Post
    Augmented tome weapons are good about as long anyway, and they'll be available for Poetics at the end of the expansion.
    Well yeah, but the same applies to relics when they are finished. Whether they are worth the grind or not is mostly up to the individual.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Naoki_Yoshida View Post
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    While I cannot give a specific date on when personal housing will be implemented, I can say that prices will be completely separate from free company housing, and, naturally, far more affordable.

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    Naoki34's Avatar
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    Asuka Suzuhana
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    Moogle
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    Sage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by SecretIsland View Post
    I've heard about Bozja a lot recently and when I was doing some Googling I noticed that there is a system called relic that is tied to it. From what I've gathered, a relic is a powerful weapon that is extremely grindy to get. However, I'm not sure if it's worth the time to get the relic. Can anyone comment on the pros and cons of relic?
    Oh no, we've misinformed you, the relic is an extremely average weapon (even for casual), the 5.45 gives a 515. This is the level of an Ex weapon which loot much more easily. It's just useful for AFK to show off at Limsa, it shines...

    A craft weapon that doesn't cost anything nowadays, it's a 510.

    Allagan Tomestone of Revelation 520

    Eden promise 535
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    Riamara Skye
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    Marilith
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Naoki34 View Post
    Oh no, we've misinformed you, the relic is an extremely average weapon (even for casual), the 5.45 gives a 515. This is the level of an Ex weapon which loot much more easily. It's just useful for AFK to show off at Limsa, it shines...

    A craft weapon that doesn't cost anything nowadays, it's a 510.

    Allagan Tomestone of Revelation 520

    Eden promise 535
    Stats on ALL weapons are meaningless at the end of an expansion. Glorious glowing weapons are all that matter.
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    Deceptus Keelon
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    Behemoth
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    Sage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Reap00 View Post
    Stats on ALL weapons are meaningless at the end of an expansion. Glorious glowing weapons are all that matter.
    Yeah and the Eureka ones were ugly as sin and most of the Bozja ones are following suit.
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    Veteran healers don't care if we need to heal, but right now we don't. We want interesting things to do during the downtime other than a 30s dot and a single filler spell that hasn't changed from lvl 4 to lvl 90.
    Dead DPS do no DPS. Raised DPS do 25/50% lower DPS. Do the mechanics and don't stand in bad stuff.
    Other games expect basic competence, FFXIV is pleasantly surprised by it. Other games have toxic elitism. FFXIV has toxic casualism.[/LIST]

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    Player Reap00's Avatar
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    Riamara Skye
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    Marilith
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deceptus View Post
    Yeah and the Eureka ones were ugly as sin and most of the Bozja ones are following suit.
    Opinions are neat.
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    Doki Waku
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    Faerie
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    Warrior Lv 100
    Only worth it for glam, or for alt jobs for leveling in expansion
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    Colt47's Avatar
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    Kan Himaa
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    Balmung
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    Gladiator Lv 100
    Relics are a type of grind / glamour achievement thing. I think a lot of them you can't even get unless the job is at a certain level, and at that point you're basically just getting a glamour item anyway so it isn't even good for leveling.

    But saying this, just about everything you do after completing the main story is sort of filler. It might have ties into the lore, or it might just be some random task that you perform over time to get a glowy thing, but most of the time these side quest things never even get acknowledged by the main cast just like the Savage mode runs or Ultimate. In the end, it all is the same thing, so just pick what you want to do or what gives you the most reward.
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    Player Amnmaat's Avatar
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    Loud Jungle
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    Sargatanas
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    Black Mage Lv 60
    I have to admit they've made relics pretty much useless because of how late in the patch cycle they're released compared to how early they used to release them in 2.0 and 3.0. They're only good for alt jobs.
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    Squires Ailith
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    Siren
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    Pugilist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Amnmaat View Post
    I have to admit they've made relics pretty much useless because of how late in the patch cycle they're released compared to how early they used to release them in 2.0 and 3.0. They're only good for alt jobs.
    Agreed. If the plan is to keep releasing relic so late that it is useless for normal content, then it should provide some kind of bonus for bozja/DR. Similar to how some of the eureka gear had bonuses inside eureka.
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    Adelin Soulsong
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    Zalera
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    Worth is highly subjective is the thing.
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