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    Quote Originally Posted by Velhart View Post
    Congrats to full set users. It irks me still that I put the same amount of effort, beating CC and AV (speed runs) every night for many hours ever since the patch came out, and not once have I ever seen "any" Heavy DPS armor drop. I have barely seen anything else drop for other sets either. Hate to bitch, but SE thinks Luck > Time and Effort. It really pisses me off seeing someone have two full sets of armor when people in my LS are lucky to have two pieces, for how many times we win a night, it is unfair in my opinion.

    Ohh well, I guess I just forget Darklight for now and see what 1.22 has in store.
    We are in the same boat.

    We have done about 150-200 speed runs with another 200 non speed runs thrown in and we have yet to have a body piece of any kind drop. At this point it's all just luck. Not skill, not anything you can control but just dumb luck.

    I am getting really sick of content that rewards on luck and not skill....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Meatdawg View Post
    We are in the same boat.

    We have done about 150-200 speed runs with another 200 non speed runs thrown in and we have yet to have a body piece of any kind drop. At this point it's all just luck. Not skill, not anything you can control but just dumb luck.

    I am getting really sick of content that rewards on luck and not skill....
    And I mean no offense to Amanda at all, but it is a real middle finger to us when you come in and gloat you have two full sets when most of us are lucky to have a piece to begin with. It is only a congrats on being lucky, because at this point, most people can get this gear now, but all comes down to luck.

    When I see Darklight, I don't say to myself "Ohh he must be a real skilled player, he has a full set.", no I think to myself "Wow he is lucky the gear actually dropped to him.".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Meatdawg View Post
    We are in the same boat.

    We have done about 150-200 speed runs with another 200 non speed runs thrown in and we have yet to have a body piece of any kind drop. At this point it's all just luck. Not skill, not anything you can control but just dumb luck.

    I am getting really sick of content that rewards on luck and not skill....
    Quote Originally Posted by Velhart View Post
    And I mean no offense to Amanda at all, but it is a real middle finger to us when you come in and gloat you have two full sets when most of us are lucky to have a piece to begin with. It is only a congrats on being lucky, because at this point, most people can get this gear now, but all comes down to luck.

    When I see Darklight, I don't say to myself "Ohh he must be a real skilled player, he has a full set.", no I think to myself "Wow he is lucky the gear actually dropped to him.".
    Would it be possible that SE put in an algorithm that increases the drop rate on Darklight Gear for Deathless Speed Runs? I am starting to believe that is the case. In which case, no death speed runs actually does require a bit of skill and party member coordination as much as speed runs. I am inclined to think this is less about luck and more about known unknowns...

    Quote Originally Posted by carraway View Post
    You don't have 8 chests every primal run because you can't pass weapons to each other. You also have a chance to receive a token now, which you actually can pass to each other. And prior to the introduction of tokens, it took me about 250-265 runs to get every Ifrit weapon. DL is far more punishing.
    Took me about one hundred runs to get full ifrit weapons and only one was bought with tokens. I think they might have increased the odds a little after that patch. Now when you say "250" runs I am inclined to ask whether those were all wins or losses included. Because if I include wipes that effectively double by attempts.

    Quote Originally Posted by Chardrizard View Post
    I'll say drop rate is about 5-10% overall, its abit more common than primals weapon from my experience.
    I'd say this is about right according to my experience. I've seen two DL pieces drop in about 30 speed runs. On the other hand I got ifrit weapon on first kill then another every 10kills after that on average +1 totem. As for moogle i think i got my first after 3 kills...

    Quote Originally Posted by Penguin View Post
    Maybe for your LS

    1 of our members did a rouge estimate a week ago of the amount of runs we have done (which was actually very likely lower than the actual amount of runs we have done) and so far we have averaged a 2.6% drop rate for darklight.

    Ifrit and moogle were far far easier to get full weapons for all members than DL.
    Are you talking about speed runs, speed runs with no deaths, or just normal runs?


    Quote Originally Posted by carraway View Post
    I can corroborate an estimated 2.5-2.6% drop rate based on around 450 or so runs.
    This wouldn't surprise me the least.
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    Last edited by Matsume; 04-24-2012 at 06:51 PM.