Galdjent Viis and mystel- what's behind those names on the first?

[Recon1o6]

Something I was discussing with a friend recently was how the names of various things on the first are references to different Final fantasy parts. Ronka is from ff5 for example.
However theres three I can't pin down, those being the names of the roegadyn miqote and viera


Hume, the hyur equivalent is from FF12 and the rest of ivalice scenarios

Elves being elezen is all the way back in FF1 game. One of the key plot points was the dark elf prince

Ronso are the race the Hrothgar are directly modelled after. The name of several amh araeng areas are named for prominent ronso from FF10

Lalafells are dwarves, going back to FF4 and FF1

Drahn being Au ra. Au ra are a funny one as they have no precedent beyond the Gria from FFTactics which are more draconic and plausibly their inspiration. Drahn is the rough english pronounciation of the Dragonspeak word for "dragon"


Mystel-miqote
viis- viera
galdjent-roes

Any ideas where these are from?

[Enkidoh]

Humes were first called that in FFXI incidentally, five years before FFXII was released. As for the others, they are unique to FFXIV so there is no deeper meaning behind them, SE just thought up new names for them.

[Vyrerus]

Yeah, Hume is from FFXI.

Galdjent is the XIV take on Galka. I guess they didn't want to upset any of the hardcore Roe RPers, so they changed it slightly. I had a friend back in ARR who got absolutely livid when I called Roes, Galka.

As for Mystel and Viis, those are just made up as far as I can tell. THey likely didn't reuse Mithra just to not be seen as lazy.

[KageTokage]

I find the alternative name of the Au Ra most curious when considering that dragons as we know them don't exist on the First due to them only arriving post-Sundering.

Honestly, I think the one of the mysteries I want clarified most in Endwalker is the origin of the races as there's nothing really conclusive about exactly when/how they came into being.

[MikkoAkure]

I find the alternative name of the Au Ra most curious when considering that dragons as we know them don't exist on the First due to them only arriving post-Sundering.

We name things on our Earth after dragons despite dragons not being things that exist so the same could probably be said about that world too. Komodo dragons, bearded dragons, and dragonflies are prime examples. In-universe, FFXIV dragonflies aren't related to dragons either but are also named after them.

[LineageRazor]

We name things on our Earth after dragons despite dragons not being things that exist so the same could probably be said about that world too. Komodo dragons, bearded dragons, and dragonflies are prime examples. In-universe, FFXIV dragonflies aren't related to dragons either but are also named after them.

The difference here is that, in this setting, dragons DO exist, but they are aliens who exist on only one planet out of fourteen. Folks on the other planets don't/shouldn't know about them. One could maybe imagine they have legends about giant lizards - but that's still a pretty big jump to the case of the Au Ra race, who have a superficial resemblance to dragons, being called Drahn, which is a draconic word for Dragon. Even if the first independently came up with dragon legends, would they have actual specific words from the Source's dragons?

It's possible that the First somehow learned about dragons. Perhaps the Ascians shared tales of them, or maybe a Pixie somehow found their way across the dimensional barrier (as Feo Ul does - though she needed our help to do so). But even if we assume that, that means that the Drahn were named that sometime after Dragons came to the Source. What was the race called before that?

[MikkoAkure]

The difference here is that, in this setting, dragons DO exist, but they are aliens who exist on only one planet out of fourteen. Folks on the other planets don't/shouldn't know about them. One could maybe imagine they have legends about giant lizards - but that's still a pretty big jump to the case of the Au Ra race, who have a superficial resemblance to dragons, being called Drahn, which is a draconic word for Dragon. Even if the first independently came up with dragon legends, would they have actual specific words from the Source's dragons?

It's possible that the First somehow learned about dragons. Perhaps the Ascians shared tales of them, or maybe a Pixie somehow found their way across the dimensional barrier (as Feo Ul does - though she needed our help to do so). But even if we assume that, that means that the Drahn were named that sometime after Dragons came to the Source. What was the race called before that?

Legends of dragons already exist on the First, per the Fae Gwiber mount description.

Desiring to recreate the fantastical beast known as the dragon, a sorcerer from ages past fashioned a horn imbued with Titania's power. The creature which answers the sound is aglow with fae magicks

I’d imagine pixies could have something to do with it, especially since the mount itself is related to pixies. But there’s already precedence for what I said. As far as what the race was called before, we don’t know a lot of our own world’s languages and words for things from over 10,000 years ago so I don’t think they would know either and I don’t think it really matters.

As far as the other race names in the first that don’t reference past games, it feels like they just came up with random words and I don’t see too much meaning behind them. I’m more interested in how their naming conventions work and why there are as many male mystel as there are female mystel.

[Recon1o6]

another theory on dragons: its plausible some of them crossed the rift at some point. After all we have two examples of them doing so- middy and hraesvelgr when he rescued us at the end of the omega quests

[Iscah]

Or the concept of dragons predates Midgardsormr's arrival and the label simply got attached to them because they fit the idea.

[Vyrerus]

As far as dragons go, we have more than Midgardsormr and Hraesvelgr's rift entry/crossing examples to go off of.

Dragons have been around for thousands of years by this point, despite being aliens. Because of what happened with the 13th, many dragons have been taken by void creatures or corrupted by something void related. See: All void dragons in Eureka. The Bone Dragon in Labyrinth of the Ancients. The twin headed and 5 headed dragons in World of Darkness.

With dragons having been claimed by the void, they may be on any shard, summoned through rifts as the Voidsent have been.


From another angle, the First is known to still have extant dinosaurs, per the Facet crafting quests. Cloaked Brachiosauruses. Since Dinosaur skeletons and other large reptiles are what lead to the fables of dragons in our world, it is not implausible to say that the idea of dragons gleaned from the bones of such beasts is part of the First.