What are the best ways to make gil?

[Xoto]

One word. BOT

[SecretIsland]

I'm hearing a lot of mentions of bots, and to be clear I have no intention of botting, so that option is out.

[Jojoya]

I'm hearing a lot of mentions of bots, and to be clear I have no intention of botting, so that option is out.

Bots have put a dent in the crafting market but it hasn't killed it unlike what some will claim. A bigger dent has come from more players able to craft now. Prices for many items are lower than their equivalents in past expansions but there's still plenty of room for profit.

One secret to making gil is not spending what you've already earned unless you have to. Ask yourself what you're spending your gil on and if there are other options for less or no gil.

Been paying teleport fees? Buy Aetheryte tickets with Allied or Centurio Seals instead.

Buying materia off the MB? Buy it with the clusters you get from level 80 dungeons and hunts instead (you'll occasionally get the materia itself from the level 80 dungeons).

Repairs are cheaper if you've leveled the right crafting classes and a single leveled crafting class lets you do your own melding (though I wouldn't recommend leveling crafting just for repairs and melding).

The amounts you spend on those things may not seem like much individually but they do add up over time.

Once you stop spending it unnecessarily, the amount of gil you have will increase. You might want to start thinking about what you've been spending your gil on and find ways to get what you need through other methods.

[Duskane]

Eureka
coffee biscuit leve
Ishgard restoration
maps

[Xoto]

Gonna have to disagree with Jojoya. Besides the obvious pretentiousness radiating from his comment. Crafting is dead, the market board bots killed it. Ya can make some gil at it but your efforts will be for naught as there are more and more bots springing up on the board.

[Jojoya]

Gonna have to disagree with Jojoya. Besides the obvious pretentiousness radiating from his comment. Crafting is dead, the market board bots killed it. Ya can make some gil at it but your efforts will be for naught as there are more and more bots springing up on the board.

And yet I still make several million a week crafting items for sale. I even run across your listings occasionally.

If it's dead as you say, why are you bothering? Or are you really trying to discourage competition?

My advice is perfectly sound even if you're bitter that some things don't sell for as much as they used to.

[Liam_Harper]

Gonna have to disagree with Jojoya. Besides the obvious pretentiousness radiating from his comment. Crafting is dead, the market board bots killed it. Ya can make some gil at it but your efforts will be for naught as there are more and more bots springing up on the board.

No, they're definitely right.

Crafting is ridiculously easy this expansion. Recipe difficulty was reduced, the toolkit was simplified, materials are easier to obtain, EXP was practically tripled and Ishgard added an easy way to spam collectibles for that exp. As a result, a large number of players who previously had no interest in crafting have a maxed DoH now (even if they still don't particularly enjoy crafting). So competition on the markets has skyrocketed while at the same time most players are self-sufficient so demand for crafted items has dropped.

That doesn't mean bots aren't an issue. They exist and are a problem, but they aren't the entire reason. The changes to crafting has also indirectly made botting far more viable due to easily leveled and geared crafters, easy to bot mats, easy crafts and cross world markets. It's a far more simple matter now to obtain a maxed DoH and jump straight into mass botting.

[Deceptus]

No, they're definitely right.

Crafting is ridiculously easy this expansion. Recipe difficulty was reduced, the toolkit was simplified, materials are easier to obtain, EXP was practically tripled and Ishgard added an easy way to spam collectibles for that exp. As a result, a large number of players who previously had no interest in crafting have a maxed DoH now (even if they still don't particularly enjoy crafting). So competition on the markets has skyrocketed while at the same time most players are self-sufficient so demand for crafted items has dropped.

That doesn't mean bots aren't an issue. They exist and are a problem, but they aren't the entire reason. The changes to crafting has also indirectly made botting far more viable due to easily leveled and geared crafters, easy to bot mats, easy crafts and cross world markets. It's a far more simple matter now to obtain a maxed DoH and jump straight into mass botting.

I laugh at all these crafters who have for years dominated and cornered markets suddenly crying when said markets are opened up to more people to participate in and prices drop to reasonable levels.

[Saidosha]

Gonna have to disagree with Jojoya. Besides the obvious pretentiousness radiating from his comment. Crafting is dead, the market board bots killed it. Ya can make some gil at it but your efforts will be for naught as there are more and more bots springing up on the board.

Going to loosely agree with this, emphasizing the frustration of bots. Been trying to sell some items for a week now, just to have things undercut within minutes of relisting every single time not matter what time of day from 5+ different sellers. Though, humorously, I have been deliberately lowering some of the markets to the benefit of other buyers because at this point I'm just being fueled by spite.

This isn't to say there aren't items worth crafting or gathering, but becoming a multi-gillionaire overnight is highly unlikely.

[gumas]

- gathering and sell is the common way
- crafting should give you better but need more investment i guess
- play buy low sell high from market board is also a thing but you really need to stare the market board every minute or so

- the easiest for me is just go duty finder and look whats the "adventurer in need" (mostly tank) and go play as that, it give you instant queue, extra gil, need/greed all the drop and sell them off. its small sum compare to others but since iam not into gathering/crafting, its the only way for me