The 3-Strikes Policy - Is it really a good thing?

[Kaurhz]

My point is that it's quite sad that many players feel they have to behave as if they're surrounded by very young children to avoid being thrown into GM jail.

Nah, just act like a decent human being, and don't act needlessly aggressively or abrasively and you're fine.

[Themarvin]

"Well if you get to talk to a GM for actions you committed you broke a rule with irrational behaviour, don't do that" - You mean don't talk to the GM or do the same behavior? If the later, that seems obvious.

"if you get a warning with them saying it is a nono... then they actually mean it, there is no player rules that can over rule the ToS" - By "them" are you referring to the GM? If so, how is this sentence different from the prior? Also, why wouldnt they mean it?

Having a hard time understanding what you're trying to communicate here.
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There is and was absolutely no need to be rude.

[technole]

Nah, just act like a decent human being, and don't act needlessly aggressively or abrasively and you're fine.

Pretty much, it just goes to show some people need a wake-up call to their already brazen behavior.

If what this thread has shown, that strikes are enough to get under people's skin to want to plead getting a free strike pass every year to do something wrong again. Well if you get 1 strike, you'll hopefully stop and not garner more. Just stop being rude, don't type aggressive behavior, if it's grey area where you don't know everyone in the party/linkshell/chat you are in, stop. It's not a hard concept.

[Penthea]

Nah, just act like a decent human being, and don't act needlessly aggressively or abrasively and you're fine.

That's basically what I do. I have a very foul mouth, which isn't unusual in Ireland. But in game I keep a tight lid on it because I know FFXIV staff don't care about the context of a F bomb. They only care if you said it. Which is quite funny because I found that the most devastating insults don't even need profanity.

[Kaurhz]

Pretty much, it just goes to show some people need a wake-up call to their already brazen behavior.

If what this thread has shown, that strikes are enough to get under people's skin to want to plead getting a free strike pass every year to do something wrong again. Well if you get 1 strike, you'll hopefully stop and not garner more. Just stop being rude, don't type aggressive behavior, if it's grey area where you don't know everyone in the party/linkshell/chat you are in, stop. It's not a hard concept.

If you get an offense that is nullified after a period of time like a year then you only encourage people to go back to old habits. Irrespective of the severity of the 'breach'; nothing should encourage the potentiality of people deviating back into old and disrespectful habits. If you learn your lesson as you should then the need for previous offenses to vanish after a certain amount of time is moot. Just learn from ad behavior, the 3-strike policy facilitates that. All they need to improve on is their transparency with offenders regarding their exact cause for warning; shouldn't need to cry dsar/gdpr to access something that should be provided.

That's basically what I do. I have a very foul mouth, which isn't unusual in Ireland. But in game I keep a tight lid on it because I know FFXIV staff don't care about the context of a F bomb. They only care if you said it. Which is quite funny because I found that the most devastating insults don't even need profanity.

If I'm ever in a position where I'm inclined to drop the 'F Bomb' it is usually around people with whom I have a high familiarity/relationship to otherwise feel comfortable about not getting reported. If I'm ever in a position to swear otherwise then I just change my chat log filters for specifically FC/Tell and then stray away from dropping potential toxic behavior on random people.

[SturmChurro]

I'd recommend never cursing in the first place - not even with friends. If you need to do that, keep it third party, so there is no archive of it in-game. Then again, I am incredibly paranoid.

[BaconBits]

The trick is to either keep your seething vitriol for everything and everyone in the discord group so you don't get reported, or throw shade so subtle the individual that is currently drawing your ire doesn't even realize they're being insulted.

[Lium]

That's basically what I do. I have a very foul mouth, which isn't unusual in Ireland. But in game I keep a tight lid on it because I know FFXIV staff don't care about the context of a F bomb. They only care if you said it. Which is quite funny because I found that the most devastating insults don't even need profanity.

I keep seeing this, and I'm honestly not trying to sound like a broken record, but again, I swear all the time in dungeons, mostly because I screw up a lot. And I have never gotten a warning. I understand context is everything, but are people really getting reported for dropping an F-bomb when they fail a mechanic or something?

[linayar]

Question from a non-swearer:

I feel like swearing would be a spontaneous thing. Wouldn't it make sense to just swear in person and not type it out in game? I guess some people do type fast, but it shouldn't be too hard not to swear in game (assuming it is a reportable offense) given the spontaneous nature of the exclamation.

[Shofie]

I keep seeing this, and I'm honestly not trying to sound like a broken record, but again, I swear all the time in dungeons, mostly because I screw up a lot. And I have never gotten a warning. I understand context is everything, but are people really getting reported for dropping an F-bomb when they fail a mechanic or something?

Yes. The only reason you haven't gotten a warning is because literally no one has reported you before. The split second you drop an f-bomb and someone decides to report you, you absolutely will get a warning for it (or worse, depending on where you are on the penalty pyramid).