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    Quote Originally Posted by van_arn View Post
    Or maybe -- just maybe -- I believe every word I said. And maybe -- just maybe -- the more I read through that thread the more I was convinced a certain group were weirdos we'd be better off without.
    Very few people, if any, in that thread spoke out in defense of ERP venues getting hit. One person said they like the tags so they 100% know what they are getting into. Other people have mentioned there's a big difference between 18+ and ERP and shouldn't be considered the same. Almost everyone thinks (rightfully) that everybody shouldn't get punished for bad apples... Something I believe in every aspect of life.

    But again... If you're so concerned about the children, we need to ban all those FCs that are 18+, right?

    Like I want to believe you're genuine. I want to believe the most charitable thing of everyone... But it's also very hard to do so, when you seem completely find with people who just want to play pretend getting punished because of people do bad things... Doubly so when you use words like "purge", which outside the medical/health field has always had some rather authoritarian conditions and feels more meme-y that serious.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DreadCrow View Post
    Very few people, if any, in that thread spoke out in defense of ERP venues getting hit. One person said they like the tags so they 100% know what they are getting into. Other people have mentioned there's a big difference between 18+ and ERP and shouldn't be considered the same. Almost everyone thinks (rightfully) that everybody shouldn't get punished for bad apples... Something I believe in every aspect of life.

    But again... If you're so concerned about the children, we need to ban all those FCs that are 18+, right?

    Like I want to believe you're genuine. I want to believe the most charitable thing of everyone... But it's also very hard to do so, when you seem completely find with people who just want to play pretend getting punished because of people do bad things... Doubly so when you use words like "purge", which outside the medical/health field has always had some rather authoritarian conditions and feels more meme-y that serious.
    You realize that expression you use -- bad apple -- refers to "one bad apple can spoil the barrel?"

    I'm merely saying I'm increasingly convinced the barrel is now spoiled.

    Yes, "for the children." Because it's still a game they are encouraged to play.

    Square removed chat from PVP for toxicity; perhaps it's time to remove custom PF messages. That would be a nice workaround to remove run sellers, brothel ads, and feet pics. People doing actual gameplay party content could still form up and set PF accordingly, and statics could still recruit via the Balance.

    Social gatherings could still find a place in community finder, but we'd need to look into moderation there as well-- perhaps preset messages. Kicking every social post off PF would go a long way into forcing people to find a way to make the community finder work, as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by van_arn View Post
    You realize that expression you use -- bad apple -- refers to "one bad apple can spoil the barrel?"

    I'm merely saying I'm increasingly convinced the barrel is now spoiled.

    Yes, "for the children." Because it's still a game they are encouraged to play.

    Square removed chat from PVP for toxicity; perhaps it's time to remove custom PF messages. That would be a nice workaround to remove run sellers, brothel ads, and feet pics. People doing actual gameplay party content could still form up and set PF accordingly, and statics could still recruit via the Balance.

    Social gatherings could still find a place in community finder, but we'd need to look into moderation there as well-- perhaps preset messages. Kicking every social post off PF would go a long way into forcing people to find a way to make the community finder work, as well.

    One bad apple spoils can spoil the bunch, but you don't suddenly make it so that no one can ever eat apples again. But to be very clear... "for the children", you absolutely think that every 18+ FC should have to close its doors and stop recruiting?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DreadCrow View Post
    One bad apple spoils can spoil the bunch, but you don't suddenly make it so that no one can ever eat apples again. But to be very clear... "for the children", you absolutely think that every 18+ FC should have to close its doors and stop recruiting?
    No, I'm simply saying the GMs need to take out the trash. The longer the wait, the more trash they'll need to take out.
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