What is ERP?

[SturmChurro]

I won't disagree. The only issue I had, is the people who make arguments that no RP should be advertised in the Party Finder, or that was totally alright that standard role-players got caught in the crossfire. That was sadly something that was a thing in the other thread and I can't agree with that.

I tend to agree with that GM, RP shouldn't be advertised in PF either, but at the very least SE should deal with the blatant adult listings. RPers should be asking for more social features, so we all can have a better curated experience.

[DreadCrow]

I tend to agree with that GM, RP shouldn't be advertised in PF either, but at the very least SE should deal with the blatant adult listings. RPers should be asking for more social features, so we all can have a better curated experience.

I'm going to ask; why? While I would absolutely love more social features, considering the stuff we having isn't the most antiquate... But I'm curious as to why it's problematic, in your opinion, that someone advertises in the Party Finder's "other" section?

[van_arn]

I'm going to ask; why? While I would absolutely love more social features, considering the stuff we having isn't the most antiquate... But I'm curious as to why it's problematic, in your opinion, that someone advertises in the Party Finder's "other" section?

I don't care if things are advertised unless that advertisement is for adult content in a game that welcomes teens.

I'm sorry, there is no further justification needed. Any defense of that action by players is despicable.

[DreadCrow]

I don't care if things are advertised unless that advertisement is for adult content in a game that welcomes teens.

I'm sorry, there is no further justification needed. Any defense of that action is despicable.

I'd like you to point out where I'm defending that sort of advertisement. I've made it pretty clear I don't believe it should be advertised in the party finder. I'm not questioning or defending it. I'm just curious as to why non-explicit content can't be advertised. That's what the person said.

[van_arn]

I'd like you to point out where I'm defending that sort of advertisement. I've made it pretty clear I don't believe it should be advertised in the party finder. I'm not questioning or defending it. I'm just curious as to why non-explicit content can't be advertised. That's what the person said.

Since it's not possible for a GM or player to determine what is 18+ NSFW and 18+ "I hate kids" then perhaps it's best to just nuke it all.

I'm not entirely on board with that just yet, but I'm starting to think that's the best solution. I understand the non-erp players want to disavow the ERP side when convenient, but that just makes the public ERP players rules lawyer their way behind the RP players to hide.

A purge may be necessary.

[Saefinn]

Since it's not possible for a GM or player to determine what is 18+ NSFW and 18+ "I hate kids" then perhaps it's best to just nuke it all.

I'm not entirely on board with that just yet, but I'm starting to think that's the best solution. I understand the non-erp players want to disavow the ERP side when convenient, but that just makes the public ERP players rules lawyer their way behind the RP players to hide.

A purge may be necessary.

Punishing one group for the actions of another is not really a good message to send out or a good thing to do nor is alienating a large portion of their player base, especially if they've done no wrong. The thing is, they can determine it because they can investigate, they have the tools to do so. Going back to an old interview with YoshiP on the topic of Brothel advertisements, he suggested reporting them to that effect so that they can be investigated for any wrong doing. They moderate on case-by-case basis, not by blanketly going after people who fall into a certain group. I think if they didn't moderate on case-by-case basis we should all be worried about unfair GM actions being taken against us.

[van_arn]

Punishing one group for the actions of another is not really a good message to send out or a good thing to do nor is alienating a large portion of their player base, especially if they've done no wrong. The thing is, they can determine it because they can investigate, they have the tools to do so. Going back to an old interview with YoshiP on the topic of Brothel advertisements, he suggested reporting them to that effect so that they can be investigated for any wrong doing. They moderate on case-by-case basis, not by blanketly going after people who fall into a certain group. I think if they didn't moderate on case-by-case basis we should all be worried about unfair GM actions being taken against us.

Perhaps, but when one group disguises themselves in another it may become necessary to remove the entire group.

I don't think this needs to happen right now, but it's looking increasingly likely this will be necessary if the community can't learn boundaries.

[DreadCrow]

Since it's not possible for a GM or player to determine what is 18+ NSFW and 18+ "I hate kids" then perhaps it's best to just nuke it all.

Two follow up questions, then. 1.) What about 18+ FCs? Should we not allow them for similar reasons? 2.) What about venues that aren't even 18+? I'm working on a Triple Triad parlor. It's going to be a place intended for casual role-play and Triple Traid. The only "adult" content is a bar... And since those exist in game, I really don't have a reason to put an 18+ rating on it.

I'm not entirely on board with that just yet, but I'm starting to think that's the best solution.

You sure seem like you're on board with it. But more on that in a sec...

I understand the non-erp players want to disavow the ERP side when convenient, but that just makes the public ERP players rules lawyer their way behind the RP players to hide.

If the only people that got hit by GM were ERP venues, I would have given exactly zero craps. Since as I mentioned, more than once, I don't think ERP venues should publicly advertise. In fact, my initial response was total apathy... But when I found out that it wasn't just ERP venues, but even some family friendly ones and someone looking for someone to talk to while they grind their fishing relic..? Yeah. But this sort of logic, we should ban all alcohol because some people drink and drive. Doesn't really seem productive.

A purge may be necessary.

And when I see hyperbolic comments like this, it makes me feel you really don't care about the children, and that's just an excuse to try to mock and make miscible a group of people you think are weirdos. You throw that in there, with the rest, and it makes your entirely argument feel like you're being disingenuous.

[van_arn]

Two follow up questions, then. 1.) What about 18+ FCs? Should we not allow them for similar reasons? 2.) What about venues that aren't even 18+? I'm working on a Triple Triad parlor. It's going to be a place intended for casual role-play and Triple Traid. The only "adult" content is a bar... And since those exist in game, I really don't have a reason to put an 18+ rating on it.



You sure seem like you're on board with it. But more on that in a sec...




If the only people that got hit by GM were ERP venues, I would have given exactly zero craps. Since as I mentioned, more than once, I don't think ERP venues should publicly advertise. In fact, my initial response was total apathy... But when I found out that it wasn't just ERP venues, but even some family friendly ones and someone looking for someone to talk to while they grind their fishing relic..? Yeah. But this sort of logic, we should ban all alcohol because some people drink and drive. Doesn't really seem productive.



And when I see hyperbolic comments like this, it makes me feel you really don't care about the children, and that's just an excuse to try to mock and make miscible a group of people you think are weirdos. You throw that in there, with the rest, and it makes your entirely argument feel like you're being disingenuous.

Or maybe -- just maybe -- I believe every word I said. And maybe -- just maybe -- the more I read through that thread the more I am convinced a certain group attracted weirdos we'd be better off without.

[Penthea]

Since it's not possible for a GM or player to determine what is 18+ NSFW and 18+ "I hate kids" then perhaps it's best to just nuke it all.

You could say this about literally any content. There's nothing stopping a creep trying to get frisky with someone they met in a trial mount farm group. Creepy NSFW behaviour doesn't always only begin with rp.

The point of forbidding advertisements in PF that are clearly for erp is so that the game isn't openly showing ease of access for 18+ sexual content in a game that welcomes minors to play.

If the game was 18+ I wouldn't care as much. Sure minors would still be playing but parents who buy their children these games are the ones putting them at risk for not taking the age rating seriously. In the case of this game, that is rated for teens under 18, by allowing sexual content to be openly advertised we are literally hoping for minors to have enough sense to know how to deal with this situation. I hope I don't need to explain to anyone why this isn't good (not directed at you, just to anyone in general).