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    Quote Originally Posted by DreadCrow View Post
    I'm going to ask; why? While I would absolutely love more social features, considering the stuff we having isn't the most antiquate... But I'm curious as to why it's problematic, in your opinion, that someone advertises in the Party Finder's "other" section?
    Simple. Organization; a better curated experience. New and improved social features would be better for all. This would allow the PF to be less cluttered, and with something like a "social" finder implemented it would (if done right) make it easier and more efficient for players looking for social interaction, venues, etc.
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    to be frank i dont mind/care ERP as long you dont bother anyone who is not in your "circle", if you roleplay talk and act like one in the mid of random party and even start actively "harassing" other people because "roleplay" despite they dont want it, i will definitely report/block you


    on the other hand... i google ERP and the first thing come out is "Enterprise Resource Planning" lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by gumas View Post
    on the other hand... i google ERP and the first thing come out is "Enterprise Resource Planning" lol
    All this time erp peeps were just rping working for The Syndicate of Ul'dah.
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    Quote Originally Posted by van_arn View Post
    Or maybe -- just maybe -- I believe every word I said. And maybe -- just maybe -- the more I read through that thread the more I am convinced a certain group attracted weirdos we'd be better off without.
    I can speak on behalf of myself as somebody who spoke in that thread.

    My main defences were:
    - I don't have a problem with people who engage in these activities lawfully.

    - I didn't think the GM's were taking a stance against these advertisements existing in PF.

    And I don't think your "go back to the shadows" argument is necessarily one that solves the problem, if you're concerned about the kids, as expressed earlier in this thread I can see some benefit in terms of moderation of a self policed community that's has a positive and open relationship with the GM's and moderation of the game to keep the creeps out. Because if anything these are going to be the people who spot creeps. Even then seeing these advertisements and having them reported also means GM's can investigate said venues for any wrongdoing. This was my interpretation of Yoshi P's comments on that matter, it sounds like they have a lot in the background for addressing any legal problems here.

    "Out of sight, out of mind" just pushes things underground and doesn't address any problems, it's just convenient who people who don't want to see it.

    But for ERP in PF, the main reason I am on the fence is because lack of knowledge, principally I don't think there's anything wrong with such things being advertised (it's just an advert, nobody has to partake) but if it puts kids in danger then I think their safety is more important. For that, if anything, I defer to the moderation team who I expect has the better data and better judgment on it than you or I. And from the get go I have said I'd understand if it was something the GM's cracked down on.

    And as an RP FC leader, if we get any creeps, that's also exactly the kind of thing I would do, co-operate with this game's moderation should I catch them in the act and can report them.

    Also if they were somebody I knew I'd try to correct their behaviour and I moderate my own community I run within the game, but I tend to end up dealing with toxicity and drama more than anything (which is behaviour I've moderated). I generally find the RP community to be about keeping creeps out and having a healthy community and the ones involved in are healthy communities. From my general experience when some one has across a creep they've done something about it, but it's not often I hear anything about creeps. Certainly creepy tells for those who get too close to the Quicksands and that I'll admit can attract dodgy people because of its reputation and sometimes those people are trolls. I avoid the place. My last RP there was years ago before it got like this. I would be in favour of a higher GM presence there to catch it, though the "creepy tells" is something people need to report because they're not out in the open.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saefinn View Post
    I can speak on behalf of myself as somebody who spoke in that thread.

    My main defences were:
    - I don't have a problem with people who engage in these activities lawfully.

    - I didn't think the GM's were taking a stance against these advertisements existing in PF.

    "Out of sight, out of mind" just pushes things underground and doesn't address any problems, it's just convenient who people who don't want to see it.

    But for ERP in PF, the main reason I am on the fence is because lack of knowledge, principally I don't think there's anything wrong with such things being advertised (it's just an advert, nobody has to partake) but if it puts kids in danger then I think their safety is more important.
    I generally agree with you. We do know better, collectively.

    Why is there not a thread in this forum with a list of prices for ERP, and where to get it?

    Moderation happens here regularly, the thread we're discussing serves as proof of that. It stays present for all to see. Do we suspect behaving for a 13-year-old audience is different here than in-game, or are we held to roughly the same set of moral codes?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ashemmi View Post
    I generally agree with you. We do know better, collectively.

    Why is there not a thread in this forum with a list of prices for ERP, and where to get it?

    Moderation happens here regularly, the thread we're discussing serves as proof of that. It stays present for all to see. Do we suspect behaving for a 13-year-old audience is different here than in-game, or are we held to roughly the same set of moral codes?
    Oh jeez imagine how much people would pile on if somebody were to do that. It'd take a brave soul. :P Especially if they're selling it.

    But yeah, you make a fair point. I expect the standards mods and GM's hold are similar.
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