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    Quote Originally Posted by MPK View Post
    I wouldn't because I don't RP. Waste of developer time too.
    Someone actually said you were a respectable raider. If that is the case what is an unruly one like? The developer's time would be well spent actually creating ways for roleplayers to thrive because it is a large part of the fan base as well. Just sad that some people associate roleplay to automatically assume it is related to erp. Not sure if you are trying to attempt to invalidate other people's opinions or just causing drama.
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    D&D 5E is the only system I'm really familiar with so probably that by default.
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    Also if SE ever wanted to make a tabletop RPG system or adapt it to an existing one, the people doing that wouldn't be the developers working on the video game, so no it wouldn't be wasting developer time.
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    5e dnd or something along that line or more like baulders gate
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    Thalia Beckford
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    Would fit right into D&D or Pathfinder
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    I bought the Everquest rule book when they made a PnP for it. Never got to play it, never could find people to play with. Would love a FFXIV one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Delis View Post
    I bought the Everquest rule book when they made a PnP for it. Never got to play it, never could find people to play with. Would love a FFXIV one.
    I think I have at least the Player's Handbook around here somewhere, too.
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    There was a FATE port for FFXIV floating around a few expansions ago, and a Roll20 variant.
    I found a copy of the Fate 14 version here (link)
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    Quote Originally Posted by erroch View Post
    There was a FATE port for FFXIV floating around a few expansions ago, and a Roll20 variant.
    I found a copy of the Fate 14 version here (link)
    Oh hey it's that thing I wrote, good to see it still around.

    Porting stuff to FF14 RP means finding systems that fit how freeform RPers actually behave. D&D is not a very good fit for that. I take into account these things:

    -Making a new character can mean a significant time and money investment and is more complicated than rerolling, so character death is either off the table or a matter of player choice. Game needs to have other consequences to ruin PC lives.
    -Scenes will take longer because everybody's writing in prose format so rules have to be adjusted away from the basis that a 4-5 hour session will involve people travelling to multiple locations and doing a lot of different things.
    -Players are going to be interacting with other system users and freeformers all the time, so if Dan Diceuser gets injured and Fred Freeformer wants to heal him, you need a way to address that.
    -RPers make individual concepts of unique character with weird powers and skillsets as a given, so class-based systems are doomed to failure.

    Optionally, I prefer to make sure the system can be managed in the in-game dice roller, which was a real challenge when it was only a d1000. Makes it easier for players who are on consoles.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VeradBV View Post
    Oh hey it's that thing I wrote, good to see it still around.

    Porting stuff to FF14 RP means finding systems that fit how freeform RPers actually behave. D&D is not a very good fit for that. I take into account these things:

    -Making a new character can mean a significant time and money investment and is more complicated than rerolling, so character death is either off the table or a matter of player choice. Game needs to have other consequences to ruin PC lives.
    Character death is something very rare in modern tabletop games, outside of some games (Warhammer Fantasy, Call of Cthulhu, most OSR games) and if you're making a game where character death is easy... Warhammer is really the only one where character creation takes a while.



    -Scenes will take longer because everybody's writing in prose format so rules have to be adjusted away from the basis that a 4-5 hour session will involve people travelling to multiple locations and doing a lot of different things.

    There's a lot of ways to fix this, either by limited each post of a three to fix sentences, requiring people to pre-roll and pre-type in combat, do group initiative, etc.

    -Players are going to be interacting with other system users and freeformers all the time, so if Dan Diceuser gets injured and Fred Freeformer wants to heal him, you need a way to address that.
    Since this would be on downtime, if Fred Freeformer used healing magic, Dan Diceuser could easily roll the recovered hit points... Especially since it would be bad form for Frank Freeformer to be like "your character is fully healed because my magic is that powerful.

    -RPers make individual concepts of unique character with weird powers and skillsets as a given, so class-based systems are doomed to failure.
    In 2e AD&D, there was a NPC in the Ravenloft campaign setting named Rudolph Van Richten. Conceptually, he was a doctor, who's son was stolen by a vampire and killed, which set him on a quest to rid the world of supernatural creatures that prey on innocents. He wasn't a skilled warrior or magician, having to rely on other people for those things, but he was intelligent, learned, and a skilled tactician. Mechanically, he was listed as a Thief. The point is... Classes are broad strokes. Then again, having ran D&D for a long time, I sort of feel that 9/10 times when someone says there isn't a class that fits their concept, the player just wants to be Gary Stu.

    Optionally, I prefer to make sure the system can be managed in the in-game dice roller, which was a real challenge when it was only a d1000. Makes it easier for players who are on consoles.
    Take a d100 system. Add a zero. In something like Zwihander, if you have 65 as your score for melee, you'll hit on a role of 65 or under. If you converted, convert it to a melee score of 650.
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