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    Jijifli's Avatar
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    Jijifli Kokofli
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    Quote Originally Posted by gumas View Post
    "red bandana" icon from wow is actually pretty good feature. basically if the game detect you for doing suspicious activity like botting, the game will give these character a "red bandana" icon mean they will not earn exp from killing enemies
    Are you sure that's not the exp lock feature the game already has?

    I know you get a red bandana if you party with someone who's taken that, because Blizzard didn't like the Freehold power leveling parties, as one was getting both legion benefits, and azerite benefits, and staying exp locked so they could solo the entire dungeon ezpz real fast.
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    Rawon Special
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jijifli View Post
    Are you sure that's not the exp lock feature the game already has?

    I know you get a red bandana if you party with someone who's taken that, because Blizzard didn't like the Freehold power leveling parties, as one was getting both legion benefits, and azerite benefits, and staying exp locked so they could solo the entire dungeon ezpz real fast.
    i didnt know wow that deep so i only hover the icon and it more or less said "this character will not gain exp from killing any creatures, to disable this feature please contact *somethingsomethingiforgot*"

    thats about it, unless i misunderstood the meaning, it seem pretty cut and clear that character did not gain any exp from whatever he do
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    Deceptus Keelon
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    Terrible and the FFXIV team is doing virtually nothing to stop it. Bots are rampant.
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    Veteran healers don't care if we need to heal, but right now we don't. We want interesting things to do during the downtime other than a 30s dot and a single filler spell that hasn't changed from lvl 4 to lvl 90.
    Dead DPS do no DPS. Raised DPS do 25/50% lower DPS. Do the mechanics and don't stand in bad stuff.
    Other games expect basic competence, FFXIV is pleasantly surprised by it. Other games have toxic elitism. FFXIV has toxic casualism.[/LIST]

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    I'd like to see someone ask what's being done to stop the bots, the next time Yoshi is live on screen or live at an event. I want...no I NEED to see their response. I want to see them squirm under the weight of the question.
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    Alijana Tumet
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyrj View Post
    I'd like to see someone ask what's being done to stop the bots, the next time Yoshi is live on screen or live at an event. I want...no I NEED to see their response. I want to see them squirm under the weight of the question.
    I'm not sure anything would even come of that considering that the one time they invited the head of the STF (AKA the people who are supposed to be keeping this in check) to a live letter Q&A, they could only offer a "We're trying, please understand and keep sending in reports" when asked the question of why nothing seems to be done about the rampant botting issues.

    At this point I think only seriously negative PR from outside media platforms like Twitter is likely to get them to start taking this more seriously considering how quickly they responded to the PvP hackers after that JP player tweeted a clip of the problem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KageTokage View Post
    At this point I think only seriously negative PR from outside media platforms like Twitter is likely to get them to start taking this more seriously considering how quickly they responded to the PvP hackers after that JP player tweeted a clip of the problem.
    From what I know, just to add to this, is botting of these types aren't as commonly seen on the JP servers. I don't know if it's because of Square caring on JP servers a little bit more, or just less try.

    Regardless, all I know is it convinced me enough to send my reports in Japanese. At least then we'd know if it's the translation team vs the STF. (Unsurprisingly, it's the STF)
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    Quote Originally Posted by KageTokage View Post
    I'm not sure anything would even come of that considering that the one time they invited the head of the STF (AKA the people who are supposed to be keeping this in check) to a live letter Q&A, they could only offer a "We're trying, please understand and keep sending in reports" when asked the question of why nothing seems to be done about the rampant botting issues.

    At this point I think only seriously negative PR from outside media platforms like Twitter is likely to get them to start taking this more seriously considering how quickly they responded to the PvP hackers after that JP player tweeted a clip of the problem.
    Something viral has to happen where SE can't ignore the problem anymore. Otherwise, we're just spitting in the wind.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nepentha View Post
    Burying their heads in the sand won't work forever. I'm seeing rumblings about this problem everywhere now. Discord servers, Facebook groups, Tumblrs, Twitter. The kindling is there. All it takes is a spark and they are going to have a PR problem on their hands.
    The XIV subreddit is still in denial about it apparently. I saw people who scoffed at the current efforts being confronted more often than not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ReynTime View Post
    The XIV subreddit is still in denial about it apparently. I saw people who scoffed at the current efforts being confronted more often than not.
    Most of them are either botting themselves, or just like the cheaper prices and think if we get rid of the bots they won't be able to afford anything anymore. The ends justify the means to them. But, I do see a lot of players trying to make a little money for this or that and then realize they can't actually sell anything. Because the bots have either tanked the market to ridiculous levels or they undercut so quickly that a real player can't keep up.
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    Elise Hamilton
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    Not as bad as FFXI lol.
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