FFXIV is not a failure, never was.

[viion]

To be fair, what other next-gen MMOs are out right now?

Well TERA is out in Korean and has almost 200k sustaining playerbase last time I checked, its pay 2 play and out in 1 country lol so I think its doing pretty good, but it does follow some traditional mmo systems but ultimately it has a bucket load of content. And you can even play it in English if you manage to get a KSSN to make an account as people have translated the language file. So like a good percentage might be outside korean. I'd say that is pretty Successful. I cant wait to get playing again I absolutely loved beta.

Not only that but it has a reason to level up: Theres a lot of endgame, theres ultimate weapons and theres an expansion coming out in Summer. As well as a addon in April.

[Malakhim]

Well TERA is out in Korean and has almost 200k sustaining playerbase last time I checked...

Come on... 200k only? Pfft. That's niche. *

...At least that's what people said about FFXI, and it had 500k subscribers at one point.

People and their numbers.

I've been trying to get some BETA access to it, but nothin' doing. Sucks 'cause I wanna give it a fair shot. **

* = This post is sarcastic.

** = Except this part.

[Ostia]

Come on... 200k only? Pfft. That's niche. *

...At least that's what people said about FFXI, and it had 500k subscribers at one point.

People and their numbers.

I've been trying to get some BETA access to it, but nothin' doing. Sucks 'cause I wanna give it a fair shot. **

* = This post is sarcastic.

** = Except this part.

Tera is out only in Korea, 1 country, FFXI was out world wide and only attained 500k

See 1 country 200K! Worldwide 500K .....

[viion]

Tera is out only in Korea, 1 country, FFXI was out world wide and only attained 500k

See 1 country 200K! Worldwide 500K .....

Read the stars XD He knows.

Didnt XI even get up to 1.5m at one point? I remember a big celebration on playonline, Around 2005-6

But yeh your post proves what is a Success and what is a failure, tho TERA is not a success yet as its not worldwide yet, and even analysts say that 3-4m subs is extremely successful, most dont even expect to break 1m.

[Akumu]

Read the stars XD He knows.

Didnt XI even get up to 1.5m at one point? I remember a big celebration on playonline, Around 2005-6

But yeh your post proves what is a Success and what is a failure, tho TERA is not a success yet as its not worldwide yet, and even analysts say that 3-4m subs is extremely successful, most dont even expect to break 1m.

Most Subs listed was 500,000 sometime in 2008. Total active characters(peoples alts included) 2M in 2009. by 2009 a lot already had about 9 alts for inventory space if nothing else(+1 adding their main).

So did they reach 1M at least? maybe but I doubt it.

[viion]

Most Subs listed was 500,000 sometime in 2008. Total active characters(peoples alts included) 2M in 2009. by 2009 a lot already had about 9 alts for inventory space if nothing else(+1 adding their main).

So did they reach 1M at least? maybe but I doubt it.

Ahh right, yeh just googled it up: 500k subs in 2008: http://forums.ffxiclopedia.org/viewt...hp?f=1&t=16794
And 2million characters by April 2009, http://www.playonline.com/pcd/topics...opics_all.html

Which is what 7 yrs since release? Well 5/6 to US/EU

So with XIV following XI's release so tightly i think in 5-6 years this game is going to be BOMBIN

[Ostia]

Read the stars XD He knows.

Didnt XI even get up to 1.5m at one point? I remember a big celebration on playonline, Around 2005-6

But yeh your post proves what is a Success and what is a failure, tho TERA is not a success yet as its not worldwide yet, and even analysts say that 3-4m subs is extremely successful, most dont even expect to break 1m.

Well now day's anything that gets 1-2mil subs is considered a success, it all depends on weather or not they can keep their subs in the long run, 1-2mil sold boxes is all good and dandy but the real money is in the sub's, look at WOW for example, by now 60% if not 80% of it's 12mil players have bough all 4 expansions, thats some serous money right there, but it pales in comparison to what they make month to month out of their subs.

[Malakhim]

Yeah dude, if SE/shareholders/Cthulu hadn't been out for the money grab, the game would never have been released in the state it was. I'm not trying to open that argument again though, since the fact of the matter is that nobody save SE themselves know why that even happened, and they're not talking.

But they most certainly WILL go for a PS3 launch, as that's pretty much the only way they have a shot at getting mass awareness out. Like others have posted it doesn't matter how well an MMO changes if the mass market isn't aware of these things. There has to be a significant push, and the PS3 launch IS that push.