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    poptarts12's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Izanagi_Fiaresu View Post
    Why is violence okay then?
    It's baffling at the mental gymnastics you go through just to defend typing sex acts to minors.
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    Merrick Jaeger
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    Quote Originally Posted by poptarts12 View Post
    It's baffling at the mental gymnastics you go through just to defend typing sex acts to minors.
    No one is defending that. I realize you are a troll, so I am fighting you with your own medicine. YOu made it about this. You and your sock puppet account are projecting, or being a forum troll to get a reaction out of people (if so well done it actually worked)
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  3. 02-25-2021 07:53 AM
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    I'm just deleting this, and probably most of my other posts. This place is a gods forsaken echo chamber.

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    Asha Valith
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aniya_Estlihn View Post
    A minor isn't going to wander into an RP brothel/club/venue unless they're propositioned by someone or led there; which doesn't seem to be as common as some people want to claim it is, but the thing is if someone were to do that it would happen regardless of if there are venues to facilitate it.
    Eh, if a minor sees a brothel advertise of Party Finder, and are curious... They'll absolutely go and check in out. If only out of morbid curiosity. Some would even do it because they are horny. When I was a teenager, I was mostly a "good kid". But I absolutely got a hold of comic books and movies that sure as hell weren't made for my age group. And while I think a lot of people who are screaming "think of the children" are being totally disingenuous... I don't necessarily think the best argument against folks like that are counter-accusations or pretending that it's still not not at least a gray area in the TOS to advertise in game brothels in the Party Finder.

    I'm a role-player. I'd RP a hell of a lot more than I do if Primal was more of a hotbed and once the whole data-center visit comes out... You can bet your gil I'm going to be doing it a hell of a lot more than I do now. And as a role-player on Primal... I can assure you that this did happen, in part because of certain brothels clogging up the party finder. It's 100% messed up that a GM didn't seem to realize there's a difference between a brothel ad a casual RP venue and that bit absolutely needs to be addressed... And 100%, SfW and even non-sexually explicit 18+ RP should get thrown under the bus with the rest. But we need to understand that there are bad eggs.
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    Izayoi Niwa
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    Quote Originally Posted by poptarts12 View Post
    Given all the mental gymnastics the E/RPers in the past 5 pages alone, yeah it definitely is happening. You should possibly seek therapy or turn yourself in to the police if you think it's morally justifiable to subject minors to this filth.
    First off, I don't RP, I refuse to due to past experiences.

    Secondly, I'm a sexual assault survivor. I was abused countless times in junior high while on campus as a minor if you THINK I think it's morally justifiable to subject minors to anything you're so far off-base that it's painful for me to read. The simple fact is as someone whose been PUT THROUGH that kind of situation, I've learned that while it IS a possibility, it's not the norm. It's so far from the norm that it hurts to think about even now.

    Through years of self therapy and the support of others I've learned that not everyone is sick enough in the head to think that way and if you're accusing others of it with no justifiable reasoning then you have deep-seated mental issues that go far and beyond the literal trauma, social anxiety and real life issues I deal with to this very day due to my past experiences. I don't leave my house, I have panic attacks in grocery stores or down store aisles—I suffer daily because of the things I experienced, but thanks for mislabeling me as an immoral predator.

    Your arguments are the same things that once came from the mouths of those who exploited me, so forgive me if I think you're the disgusting one and that you are projecting your own twisted fantasies—because that's the more realistic expectation here.

    God forbid someone whose been through this kind of experience give a realistic outlook and viewpoint based on their own personal experiences.
    Stop trolling, get help and move on in life.

    You're not protecting anyone anywhere by being a keyboard warrior and acting like you have a moral high ground in a discussion that has been manufactured and veered off-topic to give you that position.
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    Last edited by Aniya_Estlihn; 02-25-2021 at 08:43 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mahoukenshi View Post
    Oh please, stop that fake holier than thou attitude. Most people who loudly scream "but the minors!!!!" do it mostly to join the witch hunt, while they can comfortably hide behind questionable double standards. And no, I don't partake in any form of RP.
    I'm seeing a lot of arguing against this point, but I'm going to bring up something that happens in fandom spaces a lot: minors entering into places where things are clearly marked 18+. Fanfiction sites where there are explicit consent boxes you have to check to go into explicit works, or artists on social media who flag their profiles as 'mature' or slap the 'no under 18' emoji into the usernames/profiles. Minors still enter these spaces and I've seen plenty of them harass creators for not making the space minor-safe... but there are warnings right there. Just because someone's underage doesn't mean they can't have some sense to stay out of spaces clearly marked for adults, and that doesn't give them a free pass for entering into those places.

    I say this as I used to jump into explicit fanfics and the like when I was a minor. I knew what I was doing. I knew it was all on me for dodging through the warnings and the checks back then.
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    Last edited by Illy_Peridot; 02-25-2021 at 08:48 AM. Reason: wow i love my message being cut off

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    Quote Originally Posted by Izanagi_Fiaresu View Post
    I was 18 at a strip club drinking beers because they didnt bother to check my ID when I bought a beer.
    Exactly. Know a lot of people who had fake IDs in college. Most that happened was the cop or bouncer took the ID and then just sent them on their way. Had only one spend a night in Jail on request of his parents when the cop contacted his parents.
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    Ythun Pfarsyvil
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ashemmi View Post
    It is NOT rated for "god damn sexual content", get over yourself there. Teen is rated for "suggestive themes", ie the dancer on the pole which keeps getting tossed around. Mature is sexual content, and graphic sexual content is adult. I'm sorry if YOU don't understand the difference.
    Correction, scroll down to the bottom of this page and notice the ESRB label.

    It does say "Sexual Themes" not "suggestive" anymore. And by the ESRB page definition of "Sexual Themes" it says they're "References to sex or sexuality". So that poledancer chick, she's not only dancing.

    It also says "Online Interactions Not Rated by the ESRB". So you may think the game is rated T for teens (if you let your teens play games with sexual themes, and alcohol and tobacco use, and violence and blood) but the online interactions are NOT rated.

    Thus if you were to play this game alone and offline (which can't be played offline) then sure, it is for Teens...

    But the moment its online and those teens interact with other people then its not really a game for Teens anymore.

    https://www.esrb.org/ratings-guide/
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    Mari Yumishi
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    Quote Originally Posted by AncientWillow View Post
    Ya it is
    Its rated for such things.. If you got a proplem with it how about instend being a **** you dont allow your miniors to play the game ****
    Okay, I think you need to walk away and calm down, you are starting to get out of hand.
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    Gunnar Mel'nik
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    Quote Originally Posted by AncientWillow View Post
    Typical bitch reply instend if accepting its rated fir mature content such as sexual and drugs and profanity you hife away becausr your a tradh parent who would rather blame a game you SHOULDBT LET YOUR MINIOR PLAY instend you choice to be fat bitch and ruin it 4 all. You might as well be kyles mom in south park.
    I'm not saying there's a little yellow triangle under the post profile on the left-hand side or anything... and I'm also not saying people should click on it if they think someone is behaving inappropriately on the forums...
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