Roleplay/Partyfinder Discrepancies & Policy Enforcement by GM's

[Malzian]

Please produce any written documentation from Squenix prior to this event saying that ERP was not allowed.

Until you do, there is nothing to indicate the screenshot is inaccurate, much less "faked".

Also get better at lying.

This is as close as you'll get, which while not explicitly saying ERP isn't allowed heavily implies that it's not: "3.3 Profanity and Offensive Language. You may not use profanity or any language that a reasonable person would find offensive. The Game is for players aged 13 and older. You agree to behave accordingly."

Shhhh, I'm trying to make them say it.

>.>... "Blood from a stone."

[LittleImp]

Please produce any written documentation from Squenix prior to this event saying that ERP was not allowed.

Until you do, there is nothing to indicate the screenshot is inaccurate, much less "faked".

Also get better at lying.

I pose you this. How can you possibly effectively ERP without violating section 3.3 of the ToS? Is everyone who is ERPing somehow doing so in perfect innuendo so as to avoid violating section 3.3?

[Jijifli]

I pose you this. How can you possibly effectively ERP without violating section 3.3 of the ToS? Is everyone who is ERPing somehow doing so in perfect innuendo so as to avoid violating section 3.3?

By doing it in PM's

Which the vast majority are doing.

Be actually honest, how often do you see people publicly doing smut that isn't just trolling for attention? Because I can tell you, in my years of playing this game, I have seen it... One, and it was still somewhere more obscure anyways.

If people are publicly smutting, then yes, it'd violate 3.3. But if they aren't, and as I said vast majority are not, then they aren't violating 3.3 at all.

Edit:

And the continue since smooth brain just re-awoke and didn't put this...

These are not all erp related for the punishment. Even keep in mind, the GM stated advertising AT ALL is why, the type of content mentioned doesn't matter if it isn't content Square specifically created, according to the GM in the images. You can get the same smack for having one up for a coffee shop.

[LittleImp]

By doing it in PM's

Which the vast majority are doing.

Be actually honest, how often do you see people publicly doing smut that isn't just trolling for attention? Because I can tell you, in my years of playing this game, I have seen it... One, and it was still somewhere more obscure anyways.

If people are publicly smutting, then yes, it'd violate 3.3. But if they aren't, and as I said vast majority are not, then they aren't violating 3.3 at all.

Edit:

And the continue since smooth brain just re-awoke and didn't put this...

These are not all erp related for the punishment. Even keep in mind, the GM stated advertising AT ALL is why, the type of content mentioned doesn't matter if it isn't content Square specifically created, according to the GM in the images. You can get the same smack for having one up for a coffee shop.

These policies specifically apply to all chat channels, PMs included.

"Offensive expressions are prohibited in all places where expressions can be made in Final Fantasy XIV, including chat (including Quick Chat and Emote), markers, comments and names. Use of an offensive expression in the form of a character name is also regarded as nuisance behaviour."

[Airyll]

These policies specifically apply to all chat channels, PMs included.

"Offensive expressions are prohibited in all places where expressions can be made in Final Fantasy XIV, including chat (including Quick Chat and Emote), markers, comments and names. Use of an offensive expression in the form of a character name is also regarded as nuisance behaviour."

If two people have consented to ERP in PMs with one another, then they aren't going to report one another for the supposed 3.3 ToS violations you absolutely insist they're making.

You're also broadly interpreting "chat" to mean "every single chat mode that has ever existed" but if that's the case: have you ever been in an FC? Did anybody in that FC ever swear? And did you do your Good Citizen Duty and report your FC mate for breaching 3.3 because of their foul language? (If you answer no to this question, you're a hypocrite.)

[FelisDarwin]

I pose you this. How can you possibly effectively ERP without violating section 3.3 of the ToS? Is everyone who is ERPing somehow doing so in perfect innuendo so as to avoid violating section 3.3?

If you have to use four-letter words to engage in pixel boom-boom that's more of a problem with your imagination.

Still not seeing any statements from Squenix explicitly banning ERP. Still no proof that the screenshot of a GM explicitly endorsing it isn't real, nevermind Yoshi-P saying it was okay in that Kotaku interview.

[Decoy_Wolff]

...pixel boom-boom...

PIXEL BOOM BOOM STAAAAHP

[Airyll]

I pose you this. How can you possibly effectively ERP without violating section 3.3 of the ToS? Is everyone who is ERPing somehow doing so in perfect innuendo so as to avoid violating section 3.3?

Give us the screenshots of all the public ERP you've seen over the years.

Because, I mean, you're asking about whether all those supposedly filthy sexually deviant ERPers are doing it in perfect innuendo, right, which would presumably mean you haven't actually run into them frequently enough for them to be an actual problem to you personally. Which is why you're demanding somebody else provide evidence of ERP even existing in a space where it would need to be reported for a violation of 3.3

Pick one:

- ERPers are actually doing their thing in the privacy of things like FC apartment rooms, where they are not bothering anybody in a public space, which would explain why you're demanding somebody else provide proof that it happens in a public space where it would need to be reported

- ERPers are the big threat to the precious eyes of innocent children and it's utterly impossible they can exist anywhere in this game because the second they post a Naughty Word it would obviously be in game and therefore the Magic Anti-Sex Roleplay Fairy crashes their party and reports them for 3.3 violations because it is simply not possible these people exist outside of a public space.

[Decoy_Wolff]

I pose you this. How can you possibly effectively ERP without violating section 3.3 of the ToS? Is everyone who is ERPing somehow doing so in perfect innuendo so as to avoid violating section 3.3?

Or, you know, not everybody in FFXIV is a single braincell and advertises on discord servers, their twitter page, etc.

[KinDranex]

The best part about that old chatlog is that it's fake. It's shrunk down to one line over the years because the long-form version of it is incredibly poorly constructed, and the language in it is bizarre to anyone whose interacted with GMs in this game. Not to mention all the bizarre compression artifacts that are in perfect rectangles around many of the lines of text.

Here's the current snippet of it that's been circulating, run through a piece of software that increases contrast between areas of different compression.
https://i.imgur.com/iNxXARc.png

All this "evidence" does is imply is its heavily compressed lol