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  1. #481
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    Quote Originally Posted by Taytay View Post
    Honestly, if SE just wrote a cut and dry ToS that couldn't be interpreted in 20 different ways, we wouldn't even need to see the GM policy.
    I mean, if the two were different, we’d ABSOLUTELY need to see their policy, still.

    “Hey, you’re banned. What you did is against the rules.”
    “What? It’s not even mentioned in the rules!”
    “It is in the rules that I can see but you can’t.”
    “Okay, but why?”
    “┐( ̄~ ̄)┌”
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    i mean if they made actual fun and engaging content people wouldnt have to roleplay they could just do content.
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  3. #483
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    Quote Originally Posted by van_arn View Post
    We can nuke the brothels in the T rated game though. Or, more accurately, send them deep underground.
    The Sims is a T Rated game on ALL platforms (besides handheld) and it has VERY sexually explicit content that is implied but heavily shown and encouraged. Also, if you look at the game box for the ESRB rating, there is a little text that says that the ESRB cannot rate Online Interactions
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  4. #484
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gojin View Post
    i mean if they made actual fun and engaging content people wouldnt have to roleplay they could just do content.
    This is a horrendous take that has nothing to do with the post at hand. People can RP and still enjoy the content.
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  5. #485
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skyler_Magus View Post
    I mean, if the two were different, we’d ABSOLUTELY need to see their policy, still.

    “Hey, you’re banned. What you did is against the rules.”
    “What? It’s not even mentioned in the rules!”
    “It is in the rules that I can see but you can’t.”
    “Okay, but why?”
    “┐( ̄~ ̄)┌”
    That really defeats the purpose of a cut and dry ToS.

    The whole point of a cut and dry ToS is that there is no room for interpretation and the ambiguity is gone. If Section 6, rule 3a of the ToS states "If you are caught using ACT, you face the punishment of being banned" and then a GM catches you for using ACT and lets you know that you were in violation of Section 6, rule 3a, then there is literally nothing ambiguous about that.

    A cut and dry ToS gives GMs a handbook on how to operate and leaves out the whole emotional aspect that clearly at least one GM is acting out on.
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  6. #486
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    Quote Originally Posted by RanRanTheCat View Post
    Oooh, spicy. I would, mind you, point out that my posts, excluding this pointless squabble with you, that you started, and you refuse to finish, all had a direction, and all had a certain purpose to them. Validity of that direction and purpose is up for debate, and oh look - that is exactly what happened. A debate. Healthy one, mind you, with over half of commentators being reasonable!
    And then there is you. I say if any posts belong in these 40 posts of rubbish - it is these micro-squabbles you start with others for no other reason then to just fill space. Go run Void ark or something, be productive.
    Dude, you literally created an account to post in this very thread to tell the world how annoyed you are with roleplayers.

    Take your own advice.
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  7. #487
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    Quote Originally Posted by Taytay View Post
    That really defeats the purpose of a cut and dry ToS.

    The whole point of a cut and dry ToS is that there is no room for interpretation and the ambiguity is gone. If Section 6, rule 3a of the ToS states "If you are caught using ACT, you face the punishment of being banned" and then a GM catches you for using ACT and lets you know that you were in violation of Section 6, rule 3a, then there is literally nothing ambiguous about that.

    A cut and dry ToS gives GMs a handbook on how to operate and leaves out the whole emotional aspect that clearly at least one GM is acting out on.
    Oh, I agree. It’s just that ALL rules need to be made readily available to both parties.
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  8. #488
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    What's funny is that, looking at the official TOS on their website there is nothing, at all, telling about the use of Party Finder. There are very vague lists of "prohibited behavior" but none of them specifically say that using the party finder to advertise anything but Duty content is a bannable offense. Looking at it though, the listings for a Bannable offense are truly vague and really need to be reworded.
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  9. #489
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    Quote Originally Posted by Taytay View Post
    And that sets your "but think of the children" argument on fire and tosses it out the window.
    Not really? What Square has put in the game is within the limits of their rating. They’ve been very careful to toe the line, going as far as to redesign a pillar of content (gold saucer) around those limitations.

    Square can do things players can’t. Actually, players can only do what Square permits, and it seems they’ve become impatient again with erp— just like they’ve been in the past with instances of banning certain modded screenshots.
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  10. #490
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    Quote Originally Posted by van_arn View Post
    Not really? What Square has put in the game is within the limits of their rating. They’ve been very careful to toe the line, going as far as to redesign a pillar of content (gold saucer) around those limitations.

    Square can do things players can’t. Actually, players can only do what Square permits, and it seems they’ve become impatient again with erp— just like they’ve been in the past with instances of banning certain modded screenshots.
    Erp PFs =/= RP PFs. Two separate things, Stop joining them.
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