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    Airyll's Avatar
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    So, if using the "Other" section of PARTY finder (not a duty finder, not a Roulettes/Dungeons/Trials/Extremes/Savages/Ultimates/Hunts/FATEs/Maps/Eureka/Bozja/Gathering ONLY finder, but a party finder) to advertise a roleplay venue is apparently a breach of the ToS because roleplay isn't official in-game instanced content or whatever, that also means:

    • The infamous Nepnep's AFK Club and every other AFK club PF on aether is also in breach of ToS and we can expect them to be contacted by a GM and thrown into GM jail
    • The raid sellers who abuse Duty Roulette tab and advertise as supposedly doing "Levelling" or "50/60/70" roulette so they can show up at the very top of the PF before anything else can also be expected to be contacted by a GM and thrown into GM jail for abusing the party finder and even wilfully advertising in the wrong section
    • The people who use the Other tab to sell crafting levekits will also be thrown into GM jail and contacted by a GM
    • The people trying to sell homes and using the PF to advertise the sale will, also surely, be contacted by a GM and thrown into GM jail

    Yes? Yes???

    Because if we're going to start seeing claims of advertising "non-content" being a supposed breach of ToS and not the "intended" use of the party finder, every single one of the above also falls into that category (and a couple of them are even more egregious infractions than the roleplay advertisements are, since they are using the wrong categories intentionally to push other parties further down the list or they aren't even planning on running any content at all!) and we all know that Square GMs will be consistent in enforcing this new apparent rule, instead of going out of their way to specifically target a subsection of the community who for all intents and purposes are using the "Other" section of the Party Finder to find parties to do content with (even if that content isn't a dungeon. Which, hey, gathering and maps and FATEs aren't dungeons either, so.)
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    van_arn's Avatar
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    Van Arn
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    Goblin
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    Samurai Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Airyll View Post
    So, if using the "Other" section of PARTY finder (not a duty finder, not a Roulettes/Dungeons/Trials/Extremes/Savages/Ultimates/Hunts/FATEs/Maps/Eureka/Bozja/Gathering ONLY finder, but a party finder) to advertise a roleplay venue is apparently a breach of the ToS because roleplay isn't official in-game instanced content or whatever, that also means:

    • The infamous Nepnep's AFK Club and every other AFK club PF on aether is also in breach of ToS and we can expect them to be contacted by a GM and thrown into GM jail
    • The raid sellers who abuse Duty Roulette tab and advertise as supposedly doing "Levelling" or "50/60/70" roulette so they can show up at the very top of the PF before anything else can also be expected to be contacted by a GM and thrown into GM jail for abusing the party finder and even wilfully advertising in the wrong section
    • The people who use the Other tab to sell crafting levekits will also be thrown into GM jail and contacted by a GM
    • The people trying to sell homes and using the PF to advertise the sale will, also surely, be contacted by a GM and thrown into GM jail

    Yes? Yes???

    Because if we're going to start seeing claims of advertising "non-content" being a supposed breach of ToS and not the "intended" use of the party finder, every single one of the above also falls into that category (and a couple of them are even more egregious infractions than the roleplay advertisements are, since they are using the wrong categories intentionally to push other parties further down the list or they aren't even planning on running any content at all!) and we all know that Square GMs will be consistent in enforcing this new apparent rule, instead of going out of their way to specifically target a subsection of the community who for all intents and purposes are using the "Other" section of the Party Finder to find parties to do content with (even if that content isn't a dungeon. Which, hey, gathering and maps and FATEs aren't dungeons either, so.)
    You're right, we need to make a new tab for Market so the crafters have a place to sell their wares.

    We can nuke the brothels in the T rated game though. Or, more accurately, send them deep underground.
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    Maewynn Eternal
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    Behemoth
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    Red Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by van_arn View Post
    You're right, we need to make a new tab for Market so the crafters have a place to sell their wares.

    We can nuke the brothels in the T rated game though. Or, more accurately, send them deep underground.
    We get it buddy, you don't like the brothels. But to my understanding, they've taken down more than just the brothels.
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    Lord Untimelydoom
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    Goblin
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    Warrior Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by van_arn View Post
    You're right, we need to make a new tab for Market so the crafters have a place to sell their wares.

    We can nuke the brothels in the T rated game though. Or, more accurately, send them deep underground.
    Hey brotherman, Id agree with you BUT https://imgur.com/a/QGloB57 .

    Once you go online and interact w people. They no longer have a rating for it. So yes your comment is 100% wrong here. I can talk about what I want in game as long as it is not hurting someone else. In no way is someone saying "Come to Sallie's Corner Brothel" hurting you. Tighten up the shoe string and be a little less sensitive about this stuff.

    Don't yuck someone else's yum.
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    Andrean Lackland
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    Mateus
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    Astrologian Lv 81
    Quote Originally Posted by van_arn View Post
    We can nuke the brothels in the T rated game though.
    This isn't about brothels. By all means, ban adult venues from being advertised the way that they are banned from being advertised through the event calendars the RP community uses (that way little Jimmy who is 14 and wants to play his warrior of light doesn't wind up going to some shady smut event by accident) but that isn't the problem: the problem is RP venues such as cafes, restaurants, adventuring hub among other types of totally SFW RP hubs are blanket banned and can no longer advertise for fear of getting permanent black strikes on their accounts. I'm a member of the RP community on Crystal and I'm just as annoyed about brothels being advertised on PF as I am people having occasionally super nasty search infos (I'm talking some straight gross, fetishy stuff RIGHT in the search info).

    The party finder requires a 'market' and a 'roleplay' flag IMO.
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    World might burn. Heaven might fall. Candy abides.

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    Decoy_Wolff's Avatar
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    Waltheof Wenyasch
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    Famfrit
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    Astrologian Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by van_arn View Post
    We can nuke the brothels in the T rated game though. Or, more accurately, send them deep underground.
    The Sims is a T Rated game on ALL platforms (besides handheld) and it has VERY sexually explicit content that is implied but heavily shown and encouraged. Also, if you look at the game box for the ESRB rating, there is a little text that says that the ESRB cannot rate Online Interactions
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    Andanie's Avatar
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    Kristopher Greyson
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    Brynhildr
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    Pictomancer Lv 100
    We literally go to a Brothel on the first too.

    Not to mention the quest where you escort a Courtesan in Limsa.
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    LisSquid's Avatar
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    Mother Kos
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    Hyperion
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    Reaper Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Andanie View Post
    We literally go to a Brothel on the first too.

    Not to mention the quest where you escort a Courtesan in Limsa.
    I distinctly remember there being several mentions of "Pleasure Barges" with enslaved women on them. That really stuck with me from several quests..

    Yeah, SE really showing some double standards if brothel ads are where they draw the line. They have no leg with which to quickly hop to the other side on.
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