How do you like to experience group content the first time?

[Shougun]

If I go as DD I'll go in blind, usually as SMN or RDM (where I can raise and help out in other ways if things start going wrong), and I may go in blind as healer depending on the content type, and I wont go in blind at all as tank because I don't want to lead people awfully lol.

Doesn't that kind of defeat the purpose of doing hard content?

If you wait for guides, what's the point? I thought you wanted difficult content, not "tell me how to clear content so I can look good"


Its much more fun figuring out the mechanics. Especially in savage.

I think this is part of what started to make me think 'meh' to the hardercore stuff in MMOs.

There are guide tools (like DBM in WoW), there are all these guides that people EXPECT you to have watched.. You've team leaders telling you what to do, it's all orchestrated and to me it starts to waffle between you're a cog in the machine or "we wouldn't be dying if Timmy could follow simple instructions that everyone else already knows, or should know, because we watched the guide". Of course added onto that I've less time so now if I want to make progress on my character these type of contents in DF are not great progress sources, so I'm not labeling the 'meh' to just one feeling (part of it not the sole source of it).

Especially since tools like DMB, which do exist for FFXIV, will make it so other people play better by the nature of being informed even if they wouldn't normally be to that level which then means the devs should be designing to that tier of informed decision making and thus reinforcing the concept that you should be well read on your guides and such.

To be fair there are some people I'm sure who are in love with the orchestra gameplay, love reading the guides or using those tools and then getting into a group of other people to do that.

For those who 'figure out (and win lol)' ultimate and savage I've a particular respect to their skill. No disrespect if you don't win, just not as neat as winning lol. Play however you want XD.