How do you like to experience group content the first time?

[Penthea]

Doesn't that kind of defeat the purpose of doing hard content?

If you wait for guides, what's the point? I thought you wanted difficult content, not "tell me how to clear content so I can look good"

So not surprised. I used to do hardcore raiding in WoW and I found that those who keep informing you of how great they are whenever possible are rarely as amazing as they say. There's always a catch with these people. They overly highlight something to hide something else.

I have nothing against people looking up tactics. But I do have something against a person who frequently acts like they're ultra hardcore and it turns out they're not.

This would be funny if I had not seen this so many times already.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

So not surprised. I used to do hardcore raiding in WoW and I found that those who keep informing you of how great they are whenever possible are rarely as amazing as they say. There's always a catch with these people. They overly highlight something to hide something else.

I have nothing against people looking up tactics. But I do have something against a person who frequently acts like they're ultra hardcore and it turns out they're not.

This would be funny if I had not seen this so many times already.

I wonder if it's an age thing. I find myself less and less needing to prove myself to other people as I get older, and more just doing things for personal enjoyment.

[MPK]

I wonder if it's an age thing. I find myself less and less needing to prove myself to other people as I get older, and more just doing things for personal enjoyment.

Casuals have weird taste. I never understood how roflstomping something without any effort can be enjoyable in any way.

[Penthea]

Casuals have weird taste. I never understood how roflstomping something without any effort can be enjoyable in any way.

Classic attempt at deflection. Assumes someone saying they're doing something only for enjoyment must mean it is super easy content anyone can do in their sleep, to distract from the fact that they themselves shattered their own illusion of their own skill.

Hilarious and pathetic.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

Casuals have weird taste. I never understood how roflstomping something without any effort can be enjoyable in any way.

And your choice of waiting for guides instead of just going in and figuring it out yourself is weird to me.


I'm not a casual, and haven't really ever been one. I just don't spend 40 hours a week raiding to get week 1 or 2 clears. I'm much happier going at a slower pace. It let's me do other things.

[MPK]

And your choice of waiting for guides instead of just going in and figuring it out yourself is weird to me.


I'm not a casual, and haven't really ever been one. I just don't spend 40 hours a week raiding.

You don't wait for guides, you go in with what ever is available to you because the static you join expect early clears. If you haven't cleared the tier in 40hs then something is severely wrong with the static tbh

Actually going in blind is extremely disrespectful for early clear statics. You're like telling them to open their mouths then spitting it it once they do

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

You don't wait for guides, you go in with what ever is available to you because the static you join expect early clears. If you haven't cleared the tier in 40hs then something is severely wrong with the static tbh

Actually going in blind is extremely disrespectful for early clear statics

What a world we live in. Going in blind is disrespectful to early clear/world first statics. Got it.


Let me learn the fight before we go in, when no one's cleared it yet.


And my group is very casual, we have people who don't pick up mechanics as fast as others. We don't care. We have fun.

Apparently you only have fun lording your clears over others, the kind of people I dislike raiding with

[MPK]

What a world we live in. Going in blind is disrespectful to early clear/world first statics. Got it.


Let me learn the fight before we go in, when no one's cleared it yet.


And my group is very casual, we have people who don't pick up mechanics as fast as others. We don't care. We have fun.

Apparently you only have fun lording your clears over others, the kind of people I dislike raiding with

I'm talking about early clear not world prog there's a huge difference.

I am not and won't ever attempt world prog since I don't like raiding that much

[linayar]

Casuals have weird taste. I never understood how roflstomping something without any effort can be enjoyable in any way.

I don't see how you can necessarily equate personal enjoyment to putting in no effort.

Regardless, from someone who actually doesn't do Extreme/Savage/Ultimate contents, I still put in effort with dungeons and normal trials and raids and alliance raids.

People who don't put in effort, especially on "easy" contents, are what make those contents worse/harder than they need to be. LFR in WoW is a prime example of this, to the point that some people have said that LFR can be harder than Normal difficulty.