[Suggestion] Fashion/Vanity Slots.

[Soukyuu]

I don't care how people see me, I just want vanity slots so I don't have to see myself as a train wreck without sacrificing stats.

Why vanity slots then? .dat mods are much more plausible in that case (legality, blah blah, not detectable anyway)

You want to wear the gear you want without the repercussions. You want to force us into doing what you want, but you think its stupid that we want to be able to turn it off on JUST our side and let you continue to look the way you do.

That's the thing, the moment you turn it off, I no longer look the way I do.

This is a fantasy game with a strong connection to realism. That has always been SE thing. Japanese plausible reality. They create almost crazy fantasy world you can escape into because of the seeded realism. Wearing what you are not wearing is not plausible in any idea.

An open shirt/subligar providing nearly as much armor as a chain/plate mail is not realistic in any way either, but hey, who cares about that! You're being awfully selective about your sense of realism here.

You mean those other people that don't want to see vanity gear in the first place?

You don't have a right to decide how my character looks like, it's my character, not yours. Whatever I wear is none of your business. What's going to be next? A toggle to allow people to change other character names to anything they want?

So the basic idea is to disguise what you are really wearing from other players?
Unless you are ashamed of your real gear, you should have no opposition to a toggle.

*sigh* I am not ashamed of my real gear. I am tired of a system that forces me to wear something purely for stats. Provoking me won't do you any good.

So the only reason against a toggle is "I don't want you see me in my real gear" so actually there is no argument against it...

Blatantly ignoring the fact that the only reason you want to see my real gear is to see my stats, which you can still do by checking me.

Actually it is ppl whining about the possibility to toggle it off. Actually its not even your buisness how i choose to see the ppl. Just cause you can't hide your gear for ppl who don't want it...

No, it's none of your business how my character looks on your screen, actually. I'm the one paying for it, not you. Or are you offering to pay for me?

[moriandrio]

No, it's none of your business how my character looks on your screen, actually. I'm the one paying for it, not you. Or are you offering to pay for me?

This would be the case if there was only one gear everyone wears, but with this stupid vanity BS, its my right to refuse to see all the stupid pumpinhead/subligar/santa setups.

As long there are not enough restrictons (eventgear/job/level) there is a need of a toggle. I just don't want my game experienced to be fucked up just cause ppl think they need to dress up like clowns cause they dont need to care about stats anymore.

And there will be a major impact in pvp too.

[Soukyuu]

I just don't want my game experienced to be fucked up just cause ppl think they need to dress up like clowns cause they dont need to care about stats anymore.

I am getting tired of this same argument being repeated over and over again. So tired in fact, that I'm not going to go ahead and explain why it's wrong for the xth time.

[moriandrio]

I am getting tired of this same argument being repeated over and over again. So tired in fact, that I'm not going to go ahead and explain why it's wrong for the xth time.

Cause it's not, as long we don't know about the restrictions this is a point that some ppl think about. Maybe you like to run around like a clown or don't care when you run a dungeons with ppl looking like clowns. Only thing that is tired is that ppl are against a toggle and don't have an argument other then "Cause I don't want you to get a toggle"

[Soukyuu]

Cause it's not, as long we don't know about the restrictions this is a point that some ppl think about. Maybe you like to run around like a clown or don't care when you run a dungeons with ppl looking like clowns. Only thing that is tired is that ppl are against a toggle and don't have an argument other then "Cause I don't want you to get a toggle"

If you don't like to run around like a clown, you should be pro-vanity, not against. My argument against the toggle stands, whether you like it or not. If you want to interpret it as me not wanting you to have a toggle out of spite, so be it.

[Gardthorne]

I just don't want my game experienced to be fucked up just cause ppl think they need to dress up like clowns cause they dont need to care about stats anymore.

Why do people continue to make this argument? Do you not play the game right now? This is exactly what we currently have because people care about stats and not the other way around.

The artists are not involved with placing stats on items, does everyone understand this? Unless SE goes the way of tiered gear (and perhaps even not then) your armor will never match unless you intentionally gimp yourself. With no vanity/appearance/remodeling system you will always have to pick between looking terrible or being terrible at the game.

[Gokulo]

Why do people continue to make this argument?

Because IMMERSHUN

[moriandrio]

Why do people continue to make this argument? Do you not play the game right now? This is exactly what we currently have because people care about stats and not the other way around.

The artists are not involved with placing stats on items, does everyone understand this? Unless SE goes the way of tiered gear (and perhaps even not then) your armor will never match unless you intentionally gimp yourself. With no vanity/appearance/remodeling system you will always have to pick between looking terrible or being terrible at the game.

Nope it seems like you don't really read before you post.

Now you have maybe gearsets where color/style dont fit perfectly together but that isn't a problem. With a Vanity system without strict restriction you might get combinations that really look like clowns (santa/reindeer/pumpkinhead etc.). Either they make strict restrictions (no event gear, only equipable gear) or give us the option to toggle it off.

[Baxter]

Either they make strict restrictions (no event gear, only equipable gear) or give us the option to toggle it off.

Or what? Realistically, what position do you think you are in to make these kind of demands? You coming off as a pompous ass is just a guarantee you will be ignored.

[Gardthorne]

that isn't a problem.

/facepalm

I'm not even gonna bother. At least they know better than to listen to the dedicated 1.0 players at this point.