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    SturmChurro's Avatar
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    Sturm Churro
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Yencat View Post
    Yeah, the fact that you can just buy the drops off the marketboard without ever setting foot in DR removes any sort of perceived "prestige" already.

    Having the items just means you either got lucky or have gil to burn.
    Pretty much. I don't mind the token system solution. I have probably 60 runs under my belt, with no drops. Leave the RNG in place, but for people who can run it enough times, have another option available, aside from enriching lucky players with tens of millions of gil! ... or simply fix the drop rates.
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    Alexa Willows
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    Leviathan
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    Red Mage Lv 80

    I would just farm up the gil inbetween runs to be honest

    I bought most of the kupo of fortune drops from the marketboard and just made the gil back because if I can get it a different way that is more convenient then I don't see the point of farming it at all, it's really not worth the trouble.
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    Last edited by Alex_Willows; 03-30-2021 at 01:42 AM.

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    ForteNightshade's Avatar
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    Kurenai Tenshi
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Liam_Harper View Post
    Ignore Vickii, they're one of the local forum trolls.

    What baffles me is how people don't understand that adding items to a token system doesn't make them less rare than something you might get on your first run. If the hair and mount cost 999 silver coins or whatever it would be just as rare, if not rarer because it would still take over 50 runs and only the dedicated will get their hands on it. The only thing it does is add QoL so some unlucky person won't statistically get the short end of the stick and end up with nothing after 100 runs.

    Rng is an old, outdated system. The people who like rng don't want rarity, they want to get lucky every so often and have a "rare" item without having had to work too hard for it.
    Case in point, the two Unreal mounts. Both still sell in excess of 15-20M despite having been available for months. Granted, I don't love the whole fox nonsense but the takeaway here is there's a consistent grind that will inevitably guarantee you the reward over time with RNG being a bonus instead of a hindrance. With the hairstyle, it feels blatant they know people will stop running it after finishing their preferred relic. So they made it obnoxiously low in the hopes of keeping them there, spamming it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ForteNightshade View Post
    With the hairstyle, it feels blatant they know people will stop running it after finishing their preferred relic. So they made it obnoxiously low in the hopes of keeping them there, spamming it.
    They reeled me in for two more relic weapons than I had planned, just because I wanted to make my money back after having bought the hair. I thought doing it 75+ times would have netted me something, but apparently not.

    I'm pretty much at my limit now though. I'll start another relic quest, and just do it passively. If I get CT in roulette 15 times, and eventually get back to DR, I'll consider doing it again.
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    Okimi Shikinami
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    Cactuar
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    Bard Lv 100
    53 runs here. Got the barding on the 42nd (yay? I guess?). No mount, no hair. Spent all my essences too. I am very tired of it all by now. And no, I am not going to buy either of them from the market. And in fact, I feel stupid for doing so many runs. There is a reason I dont play chance games irl, lol.
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    Last edited by Oichi; 02-27-2021 at 09:18 PM.

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    Rhulk Roegan
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    Raiden
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    Warrior Lv 90
    There is nothing wrong with having low drop rates.Of course like has been mentioned that us older gamers are used to having really low drop rates and a lot of the newer generations moan in a lot of games if rng isnt in their favor or accuse drops rates of being scams etc.I see it the whole time in dota over chest openings over people complaining they open x amount and through their own imagination of how rng works they think they are entitled to the ultra rare item.
    I prefer having lower drop rates.It honestly gets boring when you see everyone running around with the exact same cosmetics.
    And it makes it more interesting when only some people have the item.It makes you appreciate the item more i feel.
    Having you be able to trade silver coins isnt a solution.then its not rare.DR is incredibly easy to run and by this stage most can faceroll it already(even if they dont bring essences because others will carry them)
    Its like with Eureka armor.It used to be rare.They nerfed it so hard that now nearly every tank has it as glam and has to make a post on reddit showing it off.
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    isnt it messed up that goblet is a housing area and not a tiny goblin
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    Dusk Himmel
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    Ravana
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    Viper Lv 100
    also put tome rewards at the end of the raid please
    40-60 minutes and cant even cap out spamming it smh
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    Pepsi Plunge
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    Lich
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    Gunbreaker Lv 80
    I have 54 DR clears, so far: No mount, no hair, no barding...
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    I have done another 16 runs since I last posted here. Fourth relic weapon. Not a single drop. No hair, no barding, no mount. I am now at the point where I am burnt out of DR. I have run this so many times and gotten nothing but relic progress, despite there being actual semi-desirable drops. It is annoying; soul-crushing.
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    Corvo Aerden
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    Kujata
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    Dark Knight Lv 90
    The price already dropped to 8 mil in kujata
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