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  1. #71
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    Quote Originally Posted by hobostew View Post
    The whole banning over profanity is kind of weird given that there is a filter for it but it's in the TOS so thems the breaks!
    The filter is, to quote another MMO GM, not a license to swear like a sailor.
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  2. #72
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doozer View Post
    No offence mate but I now have no doubt you said something offensive to get there. People only complain about "cancel culture" when they know the stuff they do would get them in trouble. I don't fear cancel culture because I understand how to behave around other people. It's not unlike men claiming they can't even talk to women lest they get "#MeToo'd", which really just says they don't understand how to treat women with respect.

    I have to disagree completely with this.

    My SO is active in the art community for this game, and has been the target of absolutely RELENTLESS 'cancel' attempts and harassment, even though she's one of the sweetest, most harmless people (specifically when compared to me haha). They harass her because, even though she's never interacted with any of these people and keeps to herself, they don't like the specific artstyle she uses to depict a certain character.

    Canceling is more often than not unhealthy, righteous bullying. Most people who participate in it aren't even the supposedly aggrieved parties; It's just a bunch of sociopaths moving from one bullying target to the next because they just enjoy hurting other people.


    And the mordion gaol system is garbage. There are frequent posts of people that have been imprisoned for 3-5 hours who were later told they were put there entirely by mistake.
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  3. #73
    Player Doozer's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by LittleImp View Post
    My SO is active in the art community for this game, and has been the target of absolutely RELENTLESS 'cancel' attempts and harassment, even though she's one of the sweetest, most harmless people (specifically when compared to me haha). They harass her because, even though she's never interacted with any of these people and keeps to herself, they don't like the specific artstyle she uses to depict a certain character.
    Oh boy, I can smell this one a mile away. What, does she draw them with lighter skin tones? Change their features to look more Eurocentric? Convenient of you to leave out details of her "artsyle", so all the rest of us can do is assume. If you want to show her as the victim, be specific, or I call bull. People who are the "victims" of cancel culture always neglect to mention important details that any normal person would have a problem with.

    Quote Originally Posted by LittleImp View Post
    It's just a bunch of sociopaths
    And save the armchair diagnoses, doc.
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  4. #74
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doozer View Post
    Oh boy, I can smell this one a mile away. What, does she draw them with lighter skin tones? Change their features to look more Eurocentric? Convenient of you to leave out details of her "artsyle", so all the rest of us can do is assume. If you want to show her as the victim, be specific, or I call bull. People who are the "victims" of cancel culture always neglect to mention important details that any normal person would have a problem with.



    And save the armchair diagnoses, doc.
    Save your whiteknighting for you echo chamber.
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  5. #75
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doozer View Post
    Oh boy, I can smell this one a mile away. What, does she draw them with lighter skin tones? Change their features to look more Eurocentric? Convenient of you to leave out details of her "artsyle", so all the rest of us can do is assume. If you want to show her as the victim, be specific, or I call bull. People who are the "victims" of cancel culture always neglect to mention important details that any normal person would have a problem with.
    Look at how disproportionately aggressive you are behaving over the idea of a counter-example to your point existing. Nothing in my original post warranted the kind of angry, unhinged response you've just given. You're coming off exactly like the kind of bullies you're trying to protect, so I guess your agenda is laid pretty bare.

    Cancel culture doesn't have anything special about it that makes it immune from the same criticisms of mob behavior throughout history. There have been justified angry mobs, but there have been just as many unjustified angry mobs acting under false pretenses. Blanketly defending cancel culture and attacking its detractors is ignorant and dangerous. Maybe your mind will change when it turns against you and starts hurting the people that you love.

    Anyway, the reason I can't explain specifics is because she's actually pretty well known, and I don't want her getting even more negative attention from perpetually angry strangers like yourself.
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  6. #76
    Player Doozer's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mahoukenshi View Post
    Save your whiteknighting for you echo chamber.
    I too understand buzzwords.

    Quote Originally Posted by LittleImp View Post
    Anyway, the reason I can't explain specifics is because she's actually pretty well known, and I don't want her getting even more negative attention from perpetually angry strangers like yourself.
    Yeah, I figured. Can't provide any more proof. I can guess what her "artstyle" is.
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  7. #77
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    I'll admit my first reaction was the usual "don't say offensive things if you don't want to be banned" (which is true, be a nice person and you're far less likely to get in trouble) but the system is flawed. Witch hunts should be immediate perma-bans and cracked down on. Doesn't their updated ToS even allow them to ban based on 3rd party activity in bad cases? Similar to how parsers aren't allowed incase of harassment, rather than directly dealing with that harassment if it happens with a zero-tolerance policy.

    Playing safe results in this strange system that imprisons players for hours, sometimes accidentally, with no idea what they did. It's not ideal and the only reason the system is used is to be cheap on staff resources dealing with any further cases of ToS breach.

    Quote Originally Posted by DamianFatale View Post
    To be fair, I have had a rough couple of days due to family drama. My mood has not been very good, this incident only made me feel worse.

    Also healing from an injury at the same time. If I'm on edge, I apologise. I feel very.. pricked and poked emotionally if that makes sense. My mental and physical health are not well at all.
    Probably what happened then, you had a rough run and snapped at someone and it didn't register as offensive because you were annoyed. I'm only saying that incase it helps you figure out what got you the ban. Any particularly rough PF runs?
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  8. #78
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doozer View Post
    Yeah, I figured. Can't provide any more proof. I can guess what her "artstyle" is.
    It's funny how your first instinct was to inject race into this. Got something on the mind?

    It actually mostly had to do with how she chose to draw a legal-aged, non-lalafell characters chest. Is that a good criticism to try to ruin half of someone's income over? A good reason to spam their separate main account with empty reports to try to get it suspended?

    Good thing most of the people that attacked her were later outed themselves as.. more than questionable individuals. One of the main instigators was even outed as a straight up pedo lmao.

    But hey, they were just brave, cancelling white knights who did nothing wrong.
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  9. #79
    Player Doozer's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by LittleImp View Post
    It's funny how your first instinct was to inject race into this. Got something on the mind?
    Weak attempt, try again.

    Quote Originally Posted by LittleImp View Post
    It actually mostly had to do with how she chose to draw a legal-aged, non-lalafell characters chest.
    Yeah I'm gonna need more info than that, buddy. No one cares about the chest of a "legal-aged, non-lalafell character" under normal circumstances. Give the whole story.

    Quote Originally Posted by LittleImp View Post
    Good thing most of the people that attacked her were later outed themselves as.. more than questionable individuals. One of the main instigators was even outed as a straight up pedo lmao.
    Someone doing wrong things doesn't mean they can't call out others, so that's a weak defence.

    Quote Originally Posted by LittleImp View Post
    But hey, they were just brave, cancelling white knights who did nothing wrong.
    Save the buzzwords.

    EDIT: Why are we even talking about this? This thread is about some guy pretending he doesn't know why he got put in a gaol and it's SE's fault he said bad words. I think we should stick to that instead of whining about "cancel culture".
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    Last edited by Doozer; 02-21-2021 at 11:19 PM. Reason: It's getting a bit off-topic

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doozer View Post
    This thread is about some guy pretending he doesn't know why he got put in a gaol and it's SE's fault he said bad words. I think we should stick to that instead of whining about "cancel culture".
    Well, if it is about that, why are you still posting? I thought you'd made your stance on the matter clear in the first few posts. Hm...
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