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  1. #21
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    just because you dont agree with something doesnt make it "cancel culture"

    could they have advised you what action got you jailed.. sure. so that would be an improvement.

    I would say you said something somewhere or were disrespectful extremely enough to warrant it. I find it hard to imagine you dont know what it is, but then, I try to behave, so, anything I did gaol or ban worthy, I would definitely recall
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    I think the whole reframing of having consequences for your actions as "cancel culture" kind of hilarious. Like oh no I can't just be a jerk to people and get away with it anymore woe is me! :'(
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    Should be retitled "Mordion Gaol is working as intended".
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    While we're on the subject. I'd rather not harp on anyone who may or may not have done something, I would bring up the alternative of not having such a system.
    I feel like the game would be far far more toxic if SE didnt have some kind of GM task force to ensure things mostly pan out smoothly.

    It's never going to be perfect, and sometimes the innocent ones will inevitably fall thru the cracks. Just like any real life justice system. But without it, I'd wager things would be far worse.
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    I don't know about the whole cancel culture narrative, but I've heard horror stories of people being banned for using curse words in-game, or "compelling playstyles". Just in-general be careful what you put in chat, it's forever.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MariaArvana View Post
    The thing is, every case of reporting has to be reviewed by a GM who determines if the report is valid or not before they chuck you in the Mordion gaol. people can be offended by whatever they want, but the GM also has to agree with why they were offended. I could be offended by anyone who mentions the word 'snow', but its extremely unlikely a GM would ever take a report like that seriously.
    And sometimes those same GM's don't have a clue what they're doing.

    I was placed into the gaol before because of spam/spim and was likely to see the "You'll be penalized for 3 days" tag after that. The context to this was a player had whispered ME, spamming a certain 4 letter C word at me, and I never even responded to the person. I made the ticket, and I sent it through.

    I was gaol'd for my own ticket, on someone spamming me, and was likely to be suspended for it over already having a strike (emoting too many times in public area). GM's are not very bright, considering the amount of loop he'd have to go through to think I reported myself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
    I don't know about the whole cancel culture narrative, but I've heard horror stories of people being banned for using curse words in-game, or "compelling playstyles". Just in-general be careful what you put in chat, it's forever.
    The whole banning over profanity is kind of weird given that there is a filter for it but it's in the TOS so thems the breaks!
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  8. #28
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    Quote Originally Posted by hobostew View Post
    The whole banning over profanity is kind of weird given that there is a filter for it but it's in the TOS so thems the breaks!
    The filter is there to prevent people who would be offended from people doing it... accidentally (if there is such a thing when you have to type it and hit enter)

    it is NOT a license to use profanity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hobostew View Post
    I think the whole reframing of having consequences for your actions as "cancel culture" kind of hilarious. Like oh no I can't just be a jerk to people and get away with it anymore woe is me! :'(
    A good example is a twitter user who said she didn't want to work with bi people in her "industry". I'm not going to say what it is, because that wouldn't be appropriate here, but let's just say she felt that the LGBT side of the "industry" wasn't clean. She never said that she hated gays, but worded it incorrectly. By the next night the news came that she ended her life, because everyone misunderstood her, and she thought her career was over. There was no attempt by most to understand her when she apologized, and tried to correct what she said. People already had the homophobic angle stuck in their minds.

    I'm trying to say this as safe for work as possible, because despite the vulgarity of her profession, it is actually one of the best examples of toxicity in cancel culture. Cancel culture complaints are absolutely not just a disregard for consequences. This woman was genuinely sorry like I am, and wanted to correct what she said. She had perfectly just concerns, and wonderful intentions. Most people do not deserve to be put through the wringer like this.
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    Last edited by DamianFatale; 02-21-2021 at 11:05 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DamianFatale View Post
    ...

    genuinely sorry like I am, and wanted to correct what she said. She had perfectly just concerns, and wonderful intentions. Most people do not deserve to be put through the wringer like this.
    I thought you didn't know what could have gotten you in trouble? Am I reading this wrong? Comon dude! I really try to stay neutral in these things, but ??
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