FF14 devs just keep doing your thing because my god

[Shougun]

I feel like some of you have had terrible experiences and are super jaded because of that. . . .

I don't know why there's so much false information in this thread and hate.

It is very popular to hate on WoW here. While I don't spend much time with WoW's social stuff I've also seen it seems popular to use FFXIV to either dunk on the devs for messing something up or use FFXIV to be that 'weeabo, awful game'.

So honestly.. seems balanced in the end lol. But I find it really unfortunate, people will jump on the train to parade and exacerbate their hate even if they would under any other circumstance be fine with an idea or suggestion. WoW could learn a lot from FFXIV, and FFXIV from WoW, and not just in what they do well but things that didn't work out and why as well (they can act as each other's third party research lol) - and they don't need to shift entirely to the same target audience if they wanted to specialize their audience target (there is a huge overlap of audience potential but near the end part of gameplay there is clearly a bit of a focus in each mmo, one having a lot more progression friendly mechanics and content in that sphere, and the other more into supporting the 'raid' scene - although even in that they both have some overlap).

Sometimes it really does feel like sports or religion in here (or there, of what I've seen shortly), when it comes to talking about WoW. Very few people care if you reference TESO, GW2, Rift, Wildstar, or whatever. Naturally like the above subjects there is different saying "that team or religion isn't for me, but I can see past that and also tell that not every idea that comes from that origin is also 'not for me'" and then there is prostrations you see mix in with that, so one has to be careful lumping everyone together (talking bad about WoW doesn't necessarily say you're a blind white knight fan boy), but I've seen quite a few situations where it's clearly just fan hate / fan love which doesn't help anything besides look bad.

But hey- if you want to farm karma just talk bad about WoW in context of FFXIV lol. People love hearing how they've made the right choice and others made the wrong choice .

On the bright side though- Yoshida has spoke well of WoW and Blizzard a few times and from reading his perspective on the game story direction (things take balance) and long ago in ARR development I'm decently confident to think that Yoshida doesn't simply look at WoW and think "nothing good comes from that game, nothing to learn here". So at least the some of the people that matter for design are keeping aware.