FF14 devs just keep doing your thing because my god

[Videra]

Boy, am I glad we don't have what. That's absolutely awful. Once you open that particular floodgate the arms race [never] ends.

And how can you design fights around mods you don't know everyone is even using?! lol That's insane.

Because if you raid in WoW, you Are using DBM. There's no way around it. If you don't, you don't raid.

[Sqwall]

When classic WoW came out I jumped on that so fast I got whiplash. Hit me right in
the nostalgia gut. And Activison Blizzard didn't want anything to do with WoW classic.

"Why would gamers want to go back to something that old? We are making new content that is better then that old stuff!"

I don't know maybe because Vanilla-BC was the best WoW EVER was. I got out during cataclysm, and I myself became a WoW refugee looking for a MMO to play. I returned to FFXI until FFXIV (1.0) came out. I was never more lost then I was when I left cataclysm, returned to FFXI, and the ultimate trash that was FFXIV 1.0. I went to RIFT, Warhammer online, EVE, LOTRO, SWTOR. I invested $1,000's to find something to fill that WoW void and give me something I could enjoy.

So I suppose what I would like to say is... Thank GOD for Yoshi P for having the courage and foresight to fix this game. When developers are in tune with their core audience they keep that audience around for years to come. Activision being completely closed off to their core audience for the last 10 years is CLEARLY showing more and more. WoW classic was a one off and I doubt will be supported fully. "You guys don't have phones?!"

WoW/Blizzard is dead to me, classic WoW is a perfect time capsule of a time in my life that reminds me of better days, and in times like this we all need that more then ever. The people that made Blizzard a development company what it was, and felt like to play a blizzard game are ALL gone. Blizzard Activision only care about money and shareholders.

If you want to see a developer that cares? Youtube Yoshi P is upset for the 2 YEARS he fought through to remake an entire game to SAVE it. He truly loves and cares about it, and fights even harder to hold back his tears of the hardship followed up by a formal bow in apology. I highly doubt you will ever see that from Blizzard/Activsion.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JE9G3ByXKIE

Yoshi P is treasure and should be treated as such, and the SE should have utmost faith in him to guide FFXIV so they can reap the benefits.

[linayar]

Because if you raid in WoW, you Are using DBM. There's no way around it. If you don't, you don't raid.

That said, Raid Finder is available for those who don't want to use DBM.

[Jojoya]

Because if you raid in WoW, you Are using DBM. There's no way around it. If you don't, you don't raid.

Did you ever stop to think how DBM knows what to display? It's because information on mechanics gets collected by players who are raiding without it and that information then gets used to set up the DBM timers, etc.

You can absolutely raid in WoW without using DBM. It does take using your brain. You will progress slower at first than those who have it but you can raid in WoW without it just as most players here raid without it.

The reason most groups require DBM to be installed is because most people are brain dead and can't think. I knew plenty of players who would install DBM to satisfy those who scan for it then would leave all the indicators disabled.

[Puremallace]

The reason most groups require DBM to be installed is because most people are brain dead and can't think. I knew plenty of players who would install DBM to satisfy those who scan for it then would leave all the indicators disabled.

Show me your video doing Ashara Heroic much less Mythic without DBM that has 47 separate mechanics. You might be able to brain dead some fights but on a lot of them Blizzard assumes you know the timers hence the 1 shot mechanics with no indication from the bosses.

[Ralph2449]

Did you ever stop to think how DBM knows what to display? It's because information on mechanics gets collected by players who are raiding without it and that information then gets used to set up the DBM timers, etc.

You can absolutely raid in WoW without using DBM. It does take using your brain. You will progress slower at first than those who have it but you can raid in WoW without it just as most players here raid without it.

The reason most groups require DBM to be installed is because most people are brain dead and can't think. I knew plenty of players who would install DBM to satisfy those who scan for it then would leave all the indicators disabled.

I had to use bigwigs(Alternative to DBM) simply because it was a lot easier to disable the ridiculous extra warnings that actually make things worse than actually help imo, the main use I have from these addons is that timer window which shows upcoming timers.

But you are right, the mechanics are shown very clearly without any addons and you dont need any additional assistance for them but these addons have been forced onto everyone due to the community along many others.

[Penthea]

I had to use bigwigs(Alternative to DBM) simply because it was a lot easier to disable the ridiculous extra warnings that actually make things worse than actually help imo, the main use I have from these addons is that timer window which shows upcoming timers.

Oh man when I found bigwigs I never looked back. It was a much nicer add-on that I found to be less obstructive.

But you are right, the mechanics are shown very clearly without any addons and you dont need any additional assistance for them but these addons have been forced onto everyone due to the community along many others.

A lot of raid teams demand that you use boss mods to further reduce the likelihood of error. Yes WoW has in-game warnings about mechanics that will happen or a debuff on your character, but if you also have an add-on informing you of a mechanic before it even happens or get a massive skull on your head with a huge raid warning blasting the centre of your screen when you're debuffed then it becomes really hard to miss something when it happens, which means less mishaps.

The thing is if something will make a fight easier, players are going to use it regardless of how abundantly clear the game is about mechanics. The reason why we can no longer change field marks mid-combat in FFXIV is because some raiders found a way to get an add-on to automatically mark safe spots on the ground which of course trivialised some mechanics. Unsurprisingly SE were not happy about this. They couldn't do anything about the add-on itself so they removed the in-game utility that the add-on used to do its job. A classic case of "this is why we can't have nice things".