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    “Waiting for the Wind to Change.” Sorry, I gotta kvetch a little.

    It seems I only post when I‘m mad, but I promise I’m having fun! Mostly.

    Alphinaud and the WoL are in the same boat. Both had to flee over something they didn’t do; both had to leave most of their friends; both had to throw themselves on whatever mercy the Ishgardians might show. He expresses his sorrow over how badly things have gone, and sometimes other characters try to cheer him up, or they’ll talk about where he is in terms of determination/purpose/whatever. It’s okay that he’s sad, but as for the WoL feeling betrayed or lost or sad, I think the best I got was Haurchefant promising to cheer for me if I got scared during the trial. Alph did apologize at one point for taking my victories for granted, but he’s been taking ALL of me for granted. And that apology? Only came because Estinien told him he might be sending me to die. On top of that, he says he’s learned something, but we are following him around because he thinks he’s got the solution to this war. Has Alphinaud actually learned any humility? And why does he keep acting like I can’t feel? He ever think that his friend might need some support too? I guess saving his oblivious butt from dragons was the last straw. I’m not asking for warm hugs and pretty words about how everything will be okay. Just some acknowledgement that he isn’t the only one having a bad time. My life sucks too.

    (Or do they treat her like she’s made of wood because the WoL is just THAT good at suppressing all her negativity, to the point only somebody like Fray would notice? That can’t be healthy.)

    HEAVY POST-VAULT EDIT: I got to spend some time away from Alphinaud! The game HAS gotten good, although I’ve paid a steep price for it. Judging from His Worshipfulness’ comments in Ul’dah, I think he really does see my WoL as all backup and no negativity, and you can’t discount something when you aren’t even aware of it. I know I should be flattered he said he looks up to her, but it still ticks me off somewhat that she must act like a robot and hold everything in for the sake of his fragile ego. The Vault is concrete proof she DOES feel and her face DOES work as it should. I want to see less and less of that ego and some more gratitude.

    (And whoever he really is, I still plan to hang with Fray after I get my revenge. Fray has understood me from day one and he’s gonna help me let it out before it destroys me on the inside.)
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    Last edited by Tensaihime; 01-31-2021 at 01:22 PM.
    “Oh well, we tried. I guess I better get out of Eorzea before they start having EF5s every day.“

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    I think personally Alphinaud gets far more flak that he actually deserves - half his problem is he's weighed down by the reputation of his family name, specifically living up to his grandfather's legacy as Eorzea's saviour during the Calamity. Between that and being a prodigy despite his youth, it naturally resulted in him being a little too arrogant and over-ambitious, which led to his fall from grace during the Bloody Banquet in Ul'dah. He becomes a far more humble character as the story progressed, especially in ShB, but that's a spoiler.

    And Fray is... well, ironic you say you identify with Fray more, given who Fray really is, but, that's another spoiler so I won't say anything more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rannie View Post
    Aaaaannnd now I just had a mental image of Lahabrea walking into a store called Bodies R Us and trying on different humans.... >.<

    Lahabrea: hn too tall... tooo short.... Juuuuuust right.
    Venat was right.

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    I still want to know who put a knife to Alphinaud’s throat (well, besides Yuyuhase) and told him he HAD to be Louisoix 2.0. I am here for him learning some humility, Twelve know he needs it, I just wish he hadn’t dragged me down with him and then treated me like a robot at my lowest point.

    So he gets better in a later expansion, then... Someone else I asked said he became more tolerable to them near the end of Heavensward, but either way it seems I’ll be rolling my eyes for a while longer.

    ...uh oh, what did Fray do? I haven’t been admiring a dragon in disguise all this time, have I? But it‘s so nice to feel *seen* by someone during this mess, even if he is a dragon in disguise...
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    “Oh well, we tried. I guess I better get out of Eorzea before they start having EF5s every day.“

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    UPDATE:

    Hraesvelgr told us to scram, just like I thought he would. Part of me wants to comfort Iceheart/Ysayle, because while I was neutral on her she just looks so despondent I can’t help but feel bad. Another part of me wants to yell “zero for two! What will you do now oh mighty diplomat, what WILL you do?”

    Most importantly, it looks like I get to turn Nidhogg into chunky salsa after all. I confess I feel kind of bad for him too, but I reaaaaaally want to do some more smiting.
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    “Oh well, we tried. I guess I better get out of Eorzea before they start having EF5s every day.“

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enkidoh View Post
    I think personally Alphinaud gets far more flak that he actually deserves - half his problem is he's weighed down by the reputation of his family name, specifically living up to his grandfather's legacy as Eorzea's saviour during the Calamity. Between that and being a prodigy despite his youth, it naturally resulted in him being a little too arrogant and over-ambitious, which led to his fall from grace during the Bloody Banquet in Ul'dah. He becomes a far more humble character as the story progressed...
    Oh you mean the kid hero trope that went through the exact same struggle, trial and outcome in almost every anime Japan produces. Seriously they need to lay off these overused tropes for the next ff mmo. I know many of you love anime more than life itself and may not really want to see it with too critical an eye, but the themes and tropes that the entire genre leans on so heavily were already tedious 20 years ago. Japan as a whole needs to shake things up a bit. Maybe diversify their tropes and animation style just a tad so it feels less regurgitated and more creative.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tensaihime View Post
    I still want to know who put a knife to Alphinaud’s throat (well, besides Yuyuhase) and told him he HAD to be Louisoix 2.0. I am here for him learning some humility, Twelve know he needs it, I just wish he hadn’t dragged me down with him and then treated me like a robot at my lowest point.

    So he gets better in a later expansion, then... Someone else I asked said he became more tolerable to them near the end of Heavensward, but either way it seems I’ll be rolling my eyes for a while longer.

    ...uh oh, what did Fray do? I haven’t been admiring a dragon in disguise all this time, have I? But it‘s so nice to feel *seen* by someone during this mess, even if he is a dragon in disguise...
    We all like Fray. And like Enkidoh, im not going to spoil where that story is going. The DRK story is pretty good all the way through, so enjoy it. As for who made Alphy the way he is... without going too deep into the lore and history, he kinda did it to himself. Sharlayan rules say that you shouldnt interfere in the outside world. He admired his grandpa for breaking with those rules, and leaving his homeland to try and make a difference. And Loiusoix did basically save the world 5 years ago during the calamity, so hes a man worthy of some regard. Alphy's father disagreed with this, and kept his position among the heads of the Studium. Enter Alphy. He's a prodigy, so he entered the Studium at a young age and excelled. As i recall, his big thesis paper was about how the rules against intervention were wrong. He got into arguments about this with anyone who would listen, including a large one with his father. This leads to him following in his grandpas footsteps out to Eorzea to try and make a difference with a head full of ideals and no practical knowledge of the real world.

    I guess minor spoiler.
    Basically, one of the main stories that HW tells is how Alphy becomes more humble and grounded.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tensaihime View Post
    (And whoever he really is, I still plan to hang with Fray after I get my revenge. Fray has understood me from day one and he’s gonna help me let it out before it destroys me on the inside.)
    *looks back at this from DRK80 and just grins*

    Of course Fray understands....
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    Quote Originally Posted by ICountFrom0 View Post
    *looks back at this from DRK80 and just grins*

    Of course Fray understands....
    Sidurgu wanting to punch a moogle, im like "Same".
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    Get DRK to level 50. You'll understand
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    Take DRK all the way, and then look at the journal, look back at things, and understand better.
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