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  1. #61
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    Samniel Atkascha
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tint View Post
    Sure it can be done. And it is epic. But how often can you do this before it becomes boring?

    https://youtu.be/39j5v8jlndM?t=233

    Plus this not that epic one...

    https://youtu.be/39j5v8jlndM?t=125
    As many times as you can use a sword before it becomes boring. Which is why Derplander has changed his job and weapon with every expansion (twice for SB). As I said, showcasing a healer needs the WoL to take on a more reactive than proactive stance, focusing on fixing things rather than destroying an enemy. Healer LB3s ARE visually stunning as is; and both of the examples I listed are more than using a (very impressive) shield for 5 seconds and healing someone for half of one.

    I mean, if you have a bunch of soldiers dying and the WoL is walking through shooting spells at everyone, they start standing up until he's walking in front of a veritable army, THAT'S impressive.
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    Shouldn't this be all about, that a class neither seem feminine nor masculine? That was what I thought it's about, I hope I didn't got that wrong.
    I think it shouldn't matter which gender a character/class representative have. There should be a man/woman for every classtype in the game.
    What I would find interesting would be also more about LGBTQ but not like the "forced" way many series have.
    The world of FFXIV is so big, but a lot of things represent the main stereotypes of women and men.
    The stereotypes should be ignored.
    I think its the combination of the fact that a lot of healing class representatives are female, our thoughts about stereotypes, and the games handeling of stereotypes, which forms this problem, we are talking about right now.
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  3. #63
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    Sigrun Helasdottir
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    whats Alphinaud chopped liver?
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    "Sometimes I wonder I heal for fun. or if I heal because I'm a glutton for punishment."

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    This entire thread is bait, healers have representation for both men and women. Just let this die and be forgotten.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WhiteArchmage View Post
    As many times as you can use a sword before it becomes boring. Which is why Derplander has changed his job and weapon with every expansion (twice for SB). As I said, showcasing a healer needs the WoL to take on a more reactive than proactive stance, focusing on fixing things rather than destroying an enemy. Healer LB3s ARE visually stunning as is; and both of the examples I listed are more than using a (very impressive) shield for 5 seconds and healing someone for half of one.

    I mean, if you have a bunch of soldiers dying and the WoL is walking through shooting spells at everyone, they start standing up until he's walking in front of a veritable army, THAT'S impressive.
    To add, how often do we get entire FMVs featuring derplander? It's not like we want him to be a healer each expansion. If one and done is the caveat, then healers are still waiting for their one. While Louisoix represented quite well what healers go through in the thickness of a battle, he is not derplander whom represents the WoL. I see absolutely no reason why Derplander cannot take on the role of a healer for an expansion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tint View Post
    Sure it can be done. And it is epic. But how often can you do this before it becomes boring?

    https://youtu.be/39j5v8jlndM?t=233

    Plus this not that epic one...

    https://youtu.be/39j5v8jlndM?t=125
    Bring those receipts!
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    Quote Originally Posted by WhiteArchmage View Post
    As many times as you can use a sword before it becomes boring. Which is why Derplander has changed his job and weapon with every expansion (twice for SB). As I said, showcasing a healer needs the WoL to take on a more reactive than proactive stance, focusing on fixing things rather than destroying an enemy. Healer LB3s ARE visually stunning as is; and both of the examples I listed are more than using a (very impressive) shield for 5 seconds and healing someone for half of one.

    I mean, if you have a bunch of soldiers dying and the WoL is walking through shooting spells at everyone, they start standing up until he's walking in front of a veritable army, THAT'S impressive.
    The visual of this is so appealing to my imagination that it hurts. I want this now.
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    Troy La'fabulous
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    And while we are at it, SE please add an Non-binary mascot. Maybe for tank?
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    Lee Keramory
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    1. Urianger

    2. Why do we need "representation" for a class of all things? Are you so uncomfortable with yourself you need some bizarre validation of your choices?

    3. ... the role isn't exactly "masculine" in any way shape or form. Of course it's going to be perceived as a feminine role. You're trading personal "glory" for helping others. So what? Been playing healer roles for almost 20 years on MMOs. Friends and even my wife now gives me smack for it. Who cares? I prefer healing. Same way I went into the psych field despite it being 80-90% dominated by chicks. Doesn't. Bother. Me.

    Ya'll need to be more comfortable in your skin. No amount of pandering to these requests are going to make you a happier person.
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  10. #70
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    Nicodemus Mercy
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    What I'd really like to see is for an expansion to feature one of the healing jobs as the "protagonist" in the opening cinematic. Like how derplander was Warrior for ARR, Dragoon for Heavensward, Monk for Stormblood, Dark Knight for Shadowbringers, Paladin for Endwalker. Why does it always have to be a melee class?
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    How many men am I involved with? Well that depends... do you mean men as in males? Or just midlanders?

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