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    Magitek armor can be captured, doesnt mean you see the Eorzean alliance using Reapers en masse, heck Garlean troops have instrutions to blow them up if capture is inevitable.

    Elidibus is a freaking Ascian/Primal sorta thing, losing some of Zenos original skill doesnt mean squat when he can simply can go Palpatine mode in Vader's body.He can easily compensate that then add even more accounting his personal power.

    Yoshi P words like it or not carry more weight than any of the headcanon we sometimes see here, and since Stormblood it hasnt been denied so its what we have, and no matter if Guts part is a tongue in cheek joke or not, the rest of the graph stands true since it compares against characters from FF14, and someone like Raubahn that is now considerable weaker than the Wol is considered a monster in the setting even despite losing an arm, and of Hien and co managed to not being killed against Elizenos mean they are cut above from the average fighter considering normal soldiers were like flies to Zenos
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bhearil View Post
    Magitek armor can be captured, doesnt mean you see the Eorzean alliance using Reapers en masse, heck Garlean troops have instrutions to blow them up if capture is inevitable.

    Elidibus is a freaking Ascian/Primal sorta thing, losing some of Zenos original skill doesnt mean squat when he can simply can go Palpatine mode in Vader's body.He can easily compensate that then add even more accounting his personal power.

    Yoshi P words like it or not carry more weight than any of the headcanon we sometimes see here, and since Stormblood it hasnt been denied so its what we have, and no matter if Guts part is a tongue in cheek joke or not, the rest of the graph stands true since it compares against characters from FF14, and someone like Raubahn that is now considerable weaker than the Wol is considered a monster in the setting even despite losing an arm, and of Hien and co managed to not being killed against Elizenos mean they are cut above from the average fighter considering normal soldiers were like flies to Zenos
    We see Eorzeans and Non-Eorzeans using captured Magitek more and more readily, the more they make content where we directly clash with the empire. Hell, the Bozjans were able to capture a Tunnel Armor and repurpose it to break down a castrum gate.

    You either haven't played 5.3, or you're just arguing for the sake of argument. Elidibus can't replicate Zenos's real power. Period. The only way he's stronger than him is when he gets WoL devotees en masse.

    Yoshi P is human just like us. If what he says doesn't make sense, it can be disregarded or at the very least questioned.

    As far as Hien being a cut above normal soldiers, of course he is, but a cut above Eorzeans or other Domans is different than a cut above Garleans. Notice how every Shinobi in the sky cavalry scene is riding a Yol? That means they were all strong enough by story standards to best Bardam's Mettle, making them all a cut above normal fighters. Notice how Eorzea, Doma, Ala Mhigo, and Ishgard have no shortage of such capable fighters? When you have fighters like that, that can make Magitek look like a joke, then they're not really the plucky underdogs against a superior force. Outnumbered, sure. Outgunned, no.
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