Thread: Fix Summoner Once and For All in 6.0 Please!

Originally Posted by Jirah

Be careful what u wish for because fixing a job may also mean "make it dummer"

Still stand by this

I mained Summoner back in ARR, but have only returned to the game last year... I must say, its interesting how things have not changed! Many of the same complaints people made back in 2015 seem to still be here. Ah, nostalgia…

I cannot really comment on what Summoner is like now (Started a fresh character, only just got Summoner to level 66.) but honestly, I am really enjoying it, and like what I have seen in regards to endgame stuff like Egi-Bahamut etc. It certainly feels like some fat needs trimming though, perhaps making the Bahamut/Phoenix stage a bit less of a set up/more simple and tweaking the Egi assults too? The DoT system could use a rework perhaps.

I will say, I do not think we will ever get a FF11 style summon (The complaint I mostly see about the job) nor should we. They are different games, and I feel it fits the lore more that we are not summoning huge primal and having them do all the work. We are meant to be using a stolen aspect of the Primals power, after all. Do I think the look of the summons could use a re-work? For sure! At the very least, they should add some more Egi-Glams. How long have they been in the game now? I would have expected more then just the Carbys. Could be a way to add in more Summons (Like changing the Garuda Egi to a Shiva one, etc)

Always loved the SMN job.

But FF14 SMN feels more like playing a discount-warlock from WoW with identity issues.

Got my egis glamoured since carbuncle look more.. 'whole' and not just floating crystals.

But our pet is essentially just a dot made alive, with 2 pet abilities that feels detached from its own petbar. And only used to get insta-cast Ruin 4.
Not to mention that they feel clunky

2 dots in form of diseases (Confused /stare)

The 2 stances feels miss-matched in the sense;
- DWT doesnt summon bahamut or morph existing spells into a more bahamut like theme, but phoenix stance does all of the above +a buff. Feels rather odd, and like playing a job that has been made with glue, sciccors and duck tape. No offense to the devs.

I don't think I need to mention our whole rotation, with a length that makes LB3 build-up seem fast.

I hope they make DWT summon bahamut the same way when we summon phoenix and morph existing spells into what would match bahamut theme-wise.
.. and scrap the rest in turn of more summon-themed spells, that change depending on what summon/egi is active at the moment,
Also, for the love of the gods give us some new summons please. Wouldnt mind if we had garuda/leviathan as our aoe dps, ifrit/ramuh as single target, and titan/shiva as support pets with more focus on buff/debuff.

Like stated before, aetherflow feels totally detached from the job, and only used to Fester our 2 dots.

all in all, it feels like summoner atm is a job that has been the last one to draw spells from the hat of stuff.

just my 2 gil........ wait what? we got an actual healing spell..?? /Confused

At this point, I would just be happy with the promissed Egi -Glamours. They stopped at the Ruby Carbuncle but promissed back in the to do more well, it's been how many years now?
Would be nice if they stick to one rotation.