Thread: Fix Summoner Once and For All in 6.0 Please!

Originally Posted by SkyEdge1

So this is coming from the viewpoint of an absolute smooth brain DRG main. But doesn't SMN feel like it's about to burst with how much it's getting? Like something is gotta give with it right? DoT management, Pet Management, the longest rotation on a class, and the highest penalty for error margin on a dps. So if the dev team decided to rebuild the class by scrapping something, what would mains' of SMN be the most comfortable losing? From my PoV I feel like DoT is a no Brain to scrap and rework the job from there no?

If they throw away the dots they could pump up summon damage a whole lot. Might even feel good.

But I feel like an aspect players enjoy is the AoE DoT spread.

Having gone back to playing SMN, which is by no means a main for me, I feel like they should do away with the dots and just add more egi attack skills. It feels more thematic to be attacking through your summon.
And yes, the Egi models are well overdue for an upgrade.

What if... plot twist... the new Maiming job is a dot focused one and those elements will move from SMN the way DNC swooped in and BRD lost a lot of support skills.

Originally Posted by Dyvid

Then either SMN will complain about losing DoTs or the die hard "insert new job" will complain because they didn't want it to be a DoT job XD

But's it fair to remember BRD got a good amount of there support skills back, mainly the song bonuses. BRDs were pissed and rightfully so.

There is no way to make everyone happy.
I just hope we get some cohesion in this class.

Honestly though... I dont understand the fascination with DoTs, so take my comment with a grain of salt. I'm someone who would be glad to see them gone.

If the class design is as typical as I think it will be the new melee dps will have at least 1 DoT just like the rest of the melee classes.

Summoner is hilariously awkward.

1-50: Your a class that wants to have a focus on some dots, a bunch of pet stuff, oh and ruin spells to go with your dots.
50-60: You stopped caring about your summons and went all in on trying to imitate black mage.
60-70: You realized your pets existed again, used them to fuel your ruin spells, and you finally figured out how to establish a connection with a new summon of bahamut
70-80: "I'm sure Alphinaud and Alisaie won't mind if I get an egi of Phoenix."

There was an interesting interview done by Mr Happy with Yoshida and in that conversation he brought up Summoner, specifically Egi-glamour. I thought Yoshi's answer was very interesting for what's to come.

His answer: "Currently summoner as a job is reaching somewhat of a breaking point when it comes to the overall play mechanics, so we've halted work on Egi glamour for the time being in order to shift focus. There is a reason behind this, but we can't share the details with you at the moment. When the time comes, I'll be sure to properly share that information with everyone."

That could mean a lot of things, such as either significant changes to the way egis work to outright removal of them. What do you guys think it could mean? No theory is too crackpot.

Originally Posted by Auryan

There was an interesting interview done by Mr Happy with Yoshida and in that conversation he brought up Summoner, specifically Egi-glamour. I thought Yoshi's answer was very interesting for what's to come.

His answer: "Currently summoner as a job is reaching somewhat of a breaking point when it comes to the overall play mechanics, so we've halted work on Egi glamour for the time being in order to shift focus. There is a reason behind this, but we can't share the details with you at the moment. When the time comes, I'll be sure to properly share that information with everyone."

That could mean a lot of things, such as either significant changes to the way egis work to outright removal of them. What do you guys think it could mean? No theory is too crackpot.