Alright team, may be my final update as I am at a loss. I read another post about potentially uninstalling norton and installing drivers directly through nvd. It gave me hope. But it did not work. l did another clean installation on my gf laptop as well as all the items I listed above. Also to no resolve. Two different computer are having the same issues (3 counting my desktop) all the tips on the forums are not working.. what's going on