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  1. #1
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    Adventica6's Avatar
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    Lost Tales
    World
    Diabolos
    Main Class
    Machinist Lv 80
    I think the job is great and it's the only job I play, every job has something someone will complain about.. flamethrower? who cares, don't use it then, I don't.

    Rather than complaining why not do something else with your life.

    Mch is fine, so is Dnc.
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    VentVanitas's Avatar
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    Seiko Hanamura
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    Kujata
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Adventica6 View Post
    I think the job is great and it's the only job I play, every job has something someone will complain about.. flamethrower? who cares, don't use it then, I don't.

    Rather than complaining why not do something else with your life.

    Mch is fine, so is Dnc.
    Damn, flawless reasoning. You heard it here first folks. Don't like Hypercharge and how it gates skill because of ping? Just don't use it. Don't like Wildfire being a useless 2 minute CD? Just don't use it. Surely, there is no long term problem with stockpiling situational and unintuitive skills and there definitely isn't another job that is the result of SE ignoring these exact issues. insert obligatory monk comment here

    I don't know if this came across your mind, but just because you enjoy something that doesn't mean other people do as well. These very forums were made specifically for threads like these so why are you wasting your time making a post like this? None of the jobs in this game are perfect and that's why people invest the time discussing a part of the game they want to enjoy. It is perfectly fine if you like MCH as it is now, but going on to mock people for wanting it to improve is backwards thinking.
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    Last edited by VentVanitas; 02-14-2021 at 02:58 AM.

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    Myon88's Avatar
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    Myon Miya
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    Tonberry
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    Viper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Adventica6 View Post
    I think the job is great and it's the only job I play
    My condolences.

    Edit: No, in retrospect I'm actually envious there are people whose machinist experiences aren't sullied by memories of Heavensward. For many people who played it then, it's been all downhill from there. SE's anything but stingy when it comes to the job too, summoners have been begging for egi glamours for years, meanwhile here's machinist getting a full rework and shiny new animations two expansions in a row.
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    Last edited by Myon88; 02-14-2021 at 01:14 AM.

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    Qynden Peltier
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    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Myon88 View Post
    No, in retrospect I'm actually envious there are people whose machinist experiences aren't sullied by memories of Heavensward. For many people who played it then, it's been all downhill from there.
    I hated HW's version of MCH. Got it to 60 then never touched it until it was reworked in Stormblood. It was convoluted to play in HW because of HW's version of Wildfire, the one and only ability that made the job feel absolutely vile and repugnant to me. Also hated Hot Shot uptime. (I as well hated the Gauss Barrel attachment on your gun, looked silly and dumb and killed the aesthetic of glamour sets, thank the twelve that's gone. Now all that's left is the lunchbox)

    Got it to 70 sometime in Stormblood, because I was bored, hated the heat gauge balancing mechanic because it seemingly, I didn't give it a second chance as it was horrible to me, prevented you from using MCH's full toolkit on a whim and had extremely strict management. Why play MCH's complex "rotation" and do pitiful damage when you could play anything else and do more.

    It's too late for this but, if Heat Blast was removed and they gave MCH cast times back on unheated Split, Slug and Clean shot, Hot Shot/Anchor Shot and Drill shot. Changed reassemble to cause the next weaponskill to be instant cast along with what it does now. Give ammo back via a Hypercharge rework and cause ammo to turn Split, Slug and Clean shot to change into their heated forms, it's too late to change their names or visuals, cause them to become instant cast and each would do exactly the same thing Heat Blast does now or increase the 1.5 sec gcd to 2.0 or 2.2 or something to slow things down a bit as you would no longer be using one button during Hypercharge but three. The heated versions of the basic combo rotation would make sense to be instant cast with all the weird gymnastics you do while the unheated versions would make sense to be "aimed" with cast times. Barrel Stabilizer would continue to make sense as your stabilizing your barrel for precision shots via Hypercharge. Cast times either being 1.5 or 2 seconds to allow ample cooldown weaving and Anchor and Drill shot having a 2.2 or 2.5 second cast time.

    For flamethrower? Lol, yeah I got nothing other than changing it into Bishop Autoturret that doesn't have a battery gauge cost and when used just plops down right next to whatever enemy you targeted and does old Bishop Turret things. Would still be used on single target enemies as it would just be another free generic 60 second resourceless cooldown. (Which would add another ability to weave during your rotation without adding button bloat as Flamethrower is very likely already on your hotbar)

    I personally like current MCH solely because of Heat Blast's animation and hope it isn't removed or changed, and if it must be reworked just make it another cooldown to use.
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