Dark Knight 6.0: Wishlist

**Shurrikhan** · 04-06-2021 05:37 AM

Originally Posted by Launched

That's not true. It was a problem back in 3.0 when people tried to use Living Dead on Ravana Ex, but it was fixed in 3.01. The only way Benediction won't cleanse Living Dead is if you use it way too late, just like using any other cooldown too late.

Just a couple days ago it was used on me with a good 3 seconds left on LD, as we were moving between pulls. Never cleansed the Doom. (Popped LD because the WHM seemed to be taking Bene-chickening a little too far, but mobs died only halfway through it, though unfortunately not before triggering LD.) If it's been fixed, it hasn't been fixed in a wholly consistent sense.

**ItMe** · 04-06-2021 06:18 AM

Originally Posted by Launched

That's not true. It was a problem back in 3.0 when people tried to use Living Dead on Ravana Ex, but it was fixed in 3.01. The only way Benediction won't cleanse Living Dead is if you use it way too late, just like using any other cooldown too late.

I can personally confirm that popping Benediction in the dead center of living dead just sometimes won't cleanse the the zombie debuff.
Hell, I died to this last month.

**Kabooa** · 04-06-2021 07:23 AM

Originally Posted by Shurrikhan

Just a couple days ago it was used on me with a good 3 seconds left on LD, as we were moving between pulls. Never cleansed the Doom. (Popped LD because the WHM seemed to be taking Bene-chickening a little too far, but mobs died only halfway through it, though unfortunately not before triggering LD.) If it's been fixed, it hasn't been fixed in a wholly consistent sense.

If I recall, it's being healed for 100% of your maximum health, but the problem with Benediction is that overhealing doesn't count towards that.

So when you have 100,000 Max HP, living dead sits you at 1/100,000, and Benediction heals you for 100,000, but 1 of that didn't count.

99,999/100,000 = dead.

It is generally not a problem because a soul eater is likely to be used during battle, you're going to be taking damage during battle, and thus the 1 hp deficit isn't an issue.

But the fact that it remains a problem is always a sore point.

**ItMe** · 04-06-2021 08:20 AM

Originally Posted by Kabooa

It is generally not a problem because a soul eater is likely to be used during battle, you're going to be taking damage during battle, and thus the 1 hp deficit isn't an issue.

Hahaha so if I'm gonna living dead try and do it outside my burst window.
What a crummy drawback.

**Launched** · 04-06-2021 08:27 AM

Originally Posted by Kabooa

If I recall, it's being healed for 100% of your maximum health, but the problem with Benediction is that overhealing doesn't count towards that.

So when you have 100,000 Max HP, living dead sits you at 1/100,000, and Benediction heals you for 100,000, but 1 of that didn't count.

99,999/100,000 = dead.

It is generally not a problem because a soul eater is likely to be used during battle, you're going to be taking damage during battle, and thus the 1 hp deficit isn't an issue.

But the fact that it remains a problem is always a sore point.

Overhealing does count, that's what was fixed in 3.01. If it doesn't work like that right now then it's a bug that's been recently added. I'd like to see proof because I haven't seen it happen in nearly 6 years.

**Danelo** · 04-06-2021 10:50 AM

It might well be a bug because that very thing happened to me on Titania extreme

**Okhia** · 04-07-2021 08:38 AM

A side note, which could be an easier fix, is adding a simplified AOE ring for Unleash when using limited graphics on character. Since it's not a rotation of the character, like PLD or GNB, its kinda hard to see if you hit all the adds. I'm also a baby tank but it would be helpful.

**Shurrikhan** · 04-07-2021 11:52 AM

Originally Posted by Okhia

A side note, which could be an easier fix, is adding a simplified AOE ring for Unleash when using limited graphics on character. Since it's not a rotation of the character, like PLD or GNB, its kinda hard to see if you hit all the adds. I'm also a baby tank but it would be helpful.

If visible only to the caster, and clearly different from enemy AoE rings, then I don't see any downside to this, especially if it were just an option. (Heck, I'd love to see this as an option to demarcate all player AoE boundaries for oneself, ideally via subtle and action-specific colors.)

**Anahlise_Auhn_Giinslai** · 06-24-2021 01:47 PM

it is not so much a "wishList", but this is my sincere desire for Dark Knight.
as I did post else-where, here are my fairly summarized into short-mode thoughts for Dark Knight.
my full thoughts on Dark Knight lay in my "re-Inventing Dark Knight" pet project that goes neck deep into re-Inventing and re-Designing Dark Knight.

to me, Dark Knight is a "physical melee Damager-tank that can use dark magic and blood magic." but, most of Dark Knights "magic" was removed, and made into what it is now. 3.x Dark Knight was best Dark Knight, and we need Dark Knight to go back in that direction, but as a different person said, "bringing back 3.x Dark Knight" does not mean copy-and-paste old Dark Knight.
we need to take what 3.x Dark Knight was and "remaster" it into a new form that is like, but not is, the original Dark Knight.

I feel like old Dark Knight was a physical melee Damager-tank that could also use instant-cast Dark and Blood magic, and feel like this is what Dark Knight should return to. Dark Knight should have physical GCDs and oGCD Dark and Blood magic. physical attacks and weave instant-cast magic between physical attacks. also, double weave. Dark Knight should have a lot of double weave, giving it a "fast" feeling, sort of like weaving both a oGCD physical attack, edge of shadow for this example, and either a Dark or Blood magic spell, between the GCDs.

and GCD should have variety. to any person newer to Dark Knight, did you know that Dark Knight used to have two 1-2-3 combos, and one 1-2-3 Combo even had 2 different pick-one 3's to end the combo? Dark Knight needs to have this back, as well.
GCD options, not just one damn straight-forward 1-2-3 combo.

in my opinion, Dark Knight should be is its original 3.x "identity", combined with current Dark Knight BS made better. combine 3.x Dark Knight things, bring back what we lost, and combine that with what current Dark Knight has. while, by "bring back what we lost", again.. not copy-and-paste. old skills that we lost should be remastered, all of 3.x Dark Knight should be remastered, into a similar, but new, form that can combine with current Dark Knight.

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