!! Fix Healer Rescue

[Bsrking5]

Its nice to use. To bad the uses are pretty rare and the target is usually too brain dead to learn from a death.

[Goji1639]

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Placing an extra icon on the character plate and using the Arms length effect with a slightly different condition on their face should both be very simple to implement. Spaghetti code is generally only a problem when implementing new functions, not utilizing existing ones.

Regardless, if SE were to come forward and say it's too difficult to be worth it then these counterpoints of yours would be valid, but all you're doing now is arguing in bad faith. These aren't good points against implementing a toggle; they're lazy arguments made purely for the sake of arguing. I could jump into any thread on this board that's making a request, no matter how simple, and argue it MIGHT be too much work to be worth it so they should just forget about it.

Also, why would I want the ability removed when a toggle accomplishes everything I need? For me the ability would be effectively removed, and everyone else would still get to use it if they want. That's all I've been vying for and your little attempt to paint me as being vindictive is just more bad faith argument from you. You're not trying to have a discussion; you're just trying for some kind of petty "gotcha" moment

As for me being dismissive; I haven't just been saying arguments aren't compelling, I've been explaining in detail why they aren't compelling. You saying World of Warcraft is a different game [/end thought] isn't compelling on it's own. Try explaining why WoW's endgame works fine with a toggle but this game wouldn't. FFXIV's endgame is statics running progression; they can just turn Rescue on. The rest is DF roulettes where most players aren't very good with the ability anyways, but would still have the option to use it on people who actually want it.

So, what exactly is the problem?

Saying "most Healers just would stop using it," also isn't compelling because it's not quantifiable at all. It's basically you speaking in bad faith for the entire community, which adds nothing to the discussion.

[Doozer]

Holding..........

What, a sneeze?

Though this reminds me, yesterday I was in WoD for the ol' relic grind and had a tank that loved to just provoke off the other ones and tank bosses in the wrong place, so when we were fighting the Five-headed Dragon, they wouldn't stop pointing it at the center so I went and stood where the other tank was that was trying to get it, then Rescued our tank over to them so they tanked it there. Surprisingly, they stayed. Yet another use for it. Who knew.

[Goji1639]

What, a sneeze?

Though this reminds me, yesterday I was in WoD for the ol' relic grind and had a tank that loved to just provoke off the other ones and tank bosses in the wrong place, so when we were fighting the Five-headed Dragon, they wouldn't stop pointing it at the center so I went and stood where the other tank was that was trying to get it, then Rescued our tank over to them so they tanked it there. Surprisingly, they stayed. Yet another use for it. Who knew.

lol, that Holding.... was actually just a placeholder. I didn't want to type out an entire response, hit post and then lose it all when it tells me I'm still at my post limit.

[Doozer]

lol, that Holding.... was actually just a placeholder. I didn't want to type out an entire response, hit post and then lose it all when it tells me I'm still at my post limit.

ctrl+x or ctrl+c is your friend.

[KageTokage]

It makes me sad when I try to rescue a WAR who's about to fail a fatal mechanic only to see a "miss" pop up because they were using Inner Release.

It would make sense to just add the "ignore knockback immunity" flag to it but to also add a toggle to avoid being rescued by people if you'd rather not have it happen. I've been "accidentally" rescued out of my TCJ more times then I'd like to remember.

[Goji1639]

ctrl+x or ctrl+c is your friend.

And what, paste it in notepad and sit on it?

Simply making a test post and editing it works better.

Ugh, I've gotta stop wasting posts responding to this crap.

[Doozer]

And what, paste it in notepad and sit on it?

Simply making a test post and editing it works better.

Ugh, I've gotta stop wasting posts responding to this crap.

"this crap" wow that's actually really rude. I was giving you a suggestion, because I sometimes hit the post limit too, and if I typed up a lot I save it just in case it gets lost. Thought it might help you too. Though you also see your party members as enemies, so I get the feeling you have some kind of issue with that. I won't make fun of you for it.

[Goji1639]

"this crap" wow that's actually really rude. I was giving you a suggestion, because I sometimes hit the post limit too, and if I typed up a lot I save it just in case it gets lost. Thought it might help you too. Though you also see your party members as enemies, so I get the feeling you have some kind of issue with that. I won't make fun of you for it.

But I added a smiley face. That means I can say whatever I want and you have to interpret it as a good natured, friendly poke.

-1 post.

[Doozer]

But I added a smiley face. That means I can say whatever I want and you have to interpret it as a good natured, friendly poke.

-1 post.

Sure, whatever you say, chief. So, what do you think about the other thing I said, about using Rescue? Or was it more important to waste a post explaining a placeholder post instead of actually having a conversation?