!! Fix Healer Rescue

[Saidosha]

Been saved and trolled by Rescue. Personally wouldn't shed a tear if it got reworked given momentary disorientation happens in both scenarios. Turning it into a short duration preemptive revive that maintains buffs would be my route. Of course, specific mechanics that force party wipes would negate it.

[hydralus]

If we're going to get rid of abilities to troll, let's get rid of provoke as well. The off-tank can use it to force the boss to cleave the whole group.

[Goji1639]

Not sure why everyone's arguing from the position of removing the ability. That's not even what the OP is asking for.

[hydralus]

Not sure why everyone's arguing from the position of removing the ability. That's not even what the OP is asking for.

Because the toggle idea is stupid so people came up with the only obvious alternative. Aside from someone that suggested a .5 second cast time. I kinda like that idea. Then everyone can bitch about how nobody should be expected to hit arm's length in a 1 second window to stop from getting yoinked and other people can just tell them "git gud".

[Goji1639]

Because the toggle idea is stupid so people came up with the only obvious alternative. Aside from someone that suggested a .5 second cast time. I kinda like that idea. Then everyone can bitch about how nobody should be expected to hit arm's length in a 1 second window to stop from getting yoinked and other people can just tell them "git gud".

The toggle idea is perfect and is already used in a far bigger MMO.

You're just avoiding discussing the toggle because you can't argue it; there's no downside. So instead you change the discussion to Rescue being removed, which is something you can actually figure out a way to argue against. It's called creating a strawman.

[hydralus]

The toggle idea is perfect and is already used in a far bigger MMO.

You're just avoiding discussing the toggle because you can't argue it; there's no downside. So instead you change the discussion to Rescue being removed, which is something you can actually figure out a way to argue against. It's called creating a strawman.

People have already mentioned several reasons why it doesn't sound like a good solution. First, it makes the skill essentially worthless, so you may as well just take it off the hotbar if people are going to be turning it off anyway. Second, it so rarely comes into effect where it's a 'troll' that it really shouldn't be making people's panties get in a wad. Third, does that mean we should be adding toggles to every player interaction that could either inconvenience us or get us killed through no fault of our own?

Tell me about this other game and how it works and maybe it'll make more sense rather than just SAYING it works. I have no clue what game you're even talking about.

[Goji1639]

People have already mentioned several reasons why it doesn't sound like a good solution. First, it makes the skill essentially worthless, so you may as well just take it off the hotbar if people are going to be turning it off anyway. Second, it so rarely comes into effect where it's a 'troll' that it really shouldn't be making people's panties get in a wad. Third, does that mean we should be adding toggles to every player interaction that could either inconvenience us or get us killed through no fault of our own?

Tell me about this other game and how it works and maybe it'll make more sense rather than just SAYING it works. I have no clue what game you're even talking about.

The other game is World of Warcraft. Healers have an ability that's the same as Rescue and players can hold an item in their bag that makes that ability not work on them. The reason that World of Warcraft added this is because apparently players don't like being yanked out of position by random people in pugs. Who would've thought.

[Doozer]

Not sure why everyone's arguing from the position of removing the ability. That's not even what the OP is asking for.

You're right, they're asking for something to be added to the game that doesn't exist for any other skill and may not even be possible with the way the game is currently set up. Let's talk about that.

[Goji1639]

You're right, they're asking for something to be added to the game that doesn't exist for any other skill and may not even be possible with the way the game is currently set up. Let's talk about that.

Yes, asking to add something very simple to the game that another more successful MMO has already added to address the exact same problem with the exact same ability. Wouldn't kill this game to occasionally learn from it's more successful peers.

If it's changed in any of the proposed ways, it becomes less useful.

It's a matter of perspective. In statics and for people who want randoms to decide their position for them sure, and they can leave the toggle on. For myself and many others, I would find the ability to be more useful if it simply weren't used on me.

[Doozer]

Yes, asking to add something very simple to the game that another more successful MMO has already added to address the exact same problem with the exact same ability. Wouldn't kill this game to occasionally learn from it's more successful peers.

I wasn't aware that MMO devs shared source code and built their games entirely the same way and can just be like, "hey can I borrow that?" and just slap it on with a glue stick. Come on, guy. It doesn't work that way.