!! Fix Healer Rescue

[Rongway]

This would give players the option to allow others to control them via an ability like Rescue. They could toggle it on when they're playing with trusted friends or during content they're still learning. And we could also toggle it off to not let random PUG healers control our character position without our permission.

It's rare that I use rescue.

• When I use it on a DD, it's because the next mechanic absolutely will one-shot them, and their execution of other, easier earlier mechanics makes it clear they don't know that the next mechanic will one-shot them.
• When I use it on a tank, it's because the tank has placed the target somewhere that they will get 90% damage reduction or an extreme damage boost--tethered mob pairs, proximity chains, outside a crystal glow, etc--and they are parked there with no indication that they are going to move the target so that we don't have to work 10x as hard.

The players who need to be rescued don't understand that they need to be rescued. Therefore, they should not be allowed to disable being rescued.

[Greyhawk]

I seem to be using Rescue a lot more lately because of newer players. They ask for some details on the fight, I give as many details as possible to them. They thank me, start the fight and it's obvious they didn't listen to a single word I said - so here comes Rescue.
It's worth it to use in place of a Raise if I see stupid things taking place. I can save at least one person.

I've used it to interrupt LB3 - especially when the tank needs to cast it, or it has to be used on the Tear in the level 50 raid... it's always the damned DRGs too...

If they gripe about it, I let them die, and I don't raise them - someone else can if they want to, or have the ability to, but I'm not going to waste the MP. I try to tell them why I did it, but can't always do that because I'm too busy healing someone else. But, if they can't figure it out, there's nothing more I can do.

Then I get all those 'thanks' given when they know they were about to die, lol.

But to OP - I've yet to see it 'abused' or even misused in situations. Maybe I'm just lucky, but when I have experienced it being used, it's for good cause.

[MicahZerrshia]

It may be a more common issue on the North American servers

It's not really abused here either. Whenever I see these posts, which pop up now and then, I have a feeling someone usually gets rescued a couple times for a good reason from the healers pov but not their own so they jump right "its gotta be a troll, delete this ability! because I don't like it" Trolling isn't really any worse on NA than anywhere else.

[Vahlnir]

I don't think I've seen anyone use Rescue to troll in recent memory outside of Nest videos on youtube. I've seen it used and had it used on me, and 99% of the time it was warranted and appreciated. I had one use Rescue on me in Syrcus on Amon a day last week when he was casting Curtain Call. I knew I was fine and knew I could dps long enough and be able to get to safety, but one of my healers didn't want to take that chance. I said "I was fiiine!" in real life to myself, but I couldn't fault the healer one bit for doing their job. I appreciated the thought.

The players who need to be rescued don't understand that they need to be rescued. Therefore, they should not be allowed to disable being rescued.

They might not realize it in the moment due to tunnel vision (I am guilty of this every now and then, as is most everyone) but they certainly realize it after the fact, and they are usually very thankful for the Rescue.

[Canadane]

The amount of times I've been rescued inappropriately is so insignificantly small I can't imagine someone needing such a feature.

[Canadane]

It's not really abused here either. Whenever I see these posts, which pop up now and then, I have a feeling someone usually gets rescued a couple times for a good reason from the healers pov but not their own so they jump right "its gotta be a troll, delete this ability! because I don't like it" Trolling isn't really any worse on NA than anywhere else.

This probably is the situation in most cases.
The person being rescued probably just runs right back into the bad, negating the healers attempts, and assumes the healer was at fault for whatever damage they took. Or something to that effect.

[Avatre]

But to OP - I've yet to see it 'abused' or even misused in situations. Maybe I'm just lucky, but when I have experienced it being used, it's for good cause.

I've similarly not seen it abused(though there was an attempt to do so once on me during a Weeping City run at Ozma - I stand just to the side of the platform so I don't have to move when it changes shape, no matter what, when I go as melee...too bad they talked in party chat and I Arms Lengthed in time). Though I did get annoyed tonight when someone used it on me during Delubrum(the wraith fight, I was standing in a spot I knew was safe for the first miasma attack, and they rescued me causing me to take my first avoidable amount of damage that run)

[van_arn]

I like to play a game on sam where I stand in a slow charge AOE with meditate up. Sometimes I get rescued.

[t0rn]

I read title as ffx is coming to save us!

[Gemina]

What's at issue for me isn't how broadly or how much it's being used.

Simply - it's an ability that let's someone else control your own character.

I think that's enough reason to give us a toggle to let us choose whether we want to let another player control our character or not.

Rescue doesn't cause you to lose control of your character. That is what the status effect "Confusion" does. Stop exaggerating. What it does is forces you into the same position as the healer who rescues you. If you don't want to be rescued, the first thing you should do is learn, know, and obey mechanics. If you are the confident type who stays in a bad position for DPS upkeep until it is truly time to move, then use Arms Length/Surecast to prevent a rescue from the healer who is thinking you are not aware of the incoming mechanic. OR, you can even ask to be rescued during certain mechanics in order to sustain your DPS. IOW, do what IS in your control to do.

There will never be a toggle for Rescue. The skill would sooner get deleted, and that's not happening either.