6.0 Mystery Zone Speculation

[Vickii]

there's a first time for everything.

Yes I just don’t see it - not the moon but the beast tribe being in the final zone.

Reason being is mainly that you use beast tribes to level. Which I guess would be fine for crafters/gatherers but I expect the combat one to come much earlier and presume they’d stick to their SHB blueprint for the other tribes.

Also the final zone is usually just pretty empty and spacious and fully designed around the MSQ. There’s less to do in Azys, Tempest and Lochs than in the other zones and there’s much more space that doesn’t really get used. I don’t see why they’d change their format.

Also I don’t really see see how or why our final confrontation will take place on the moon, or why they would give it away in the trailer if that was the case. Again, not been done before.

[Enkidoh]

Also I don’t really see see how or why our final confrontation will take place on the moon, or why they would give it away in the trailer if that was the case. Again, not been done before.

Because it's entirelly consistant with everything that has been previously stated about Zodiark and that this is the resolution to the original main ('Hydaelyn'/'Zodiark') story. We know Zodiark is contained on the Moon. We know that this scenario will result in us having to destroy Zodiark for good. The trailer shows the WoL as PLD walking on the Moon while things on Hydaelyn below go to literally Hell (the later is a FFII reference). The expansion's logo outright shows a spaceship approaching said Moon. And it's also clearly a FFIV reference which also had it's final dungeon/battle on the moon, along with the main character switching from DRK to PLD, use of a spaceship to reach said moon.

Of course nothing is 100% confirmed, but every indication is that the final zone is the moon where we destroy Zodiark for good, as the moon is Zodiark's prison, and it's only natural we have to go there as the expansion (and story's) climax.

[van_arn]

Come to think of it, we've only seen Zodiark/the Ascian's perspective in all of this. Perhaps Endwalker is the Star's/Hyd's perspective, and we find out there's a loophole we can exploit.

Something like being able to undo the sundering of the land (after all, Hyd is the one that caused it) without killing the people living on the shards.

We could potentially end up in a (almost) restored world, Ryne and Gaia could join the Scions, and the logo would actually be a picture of the Star, rather than the moon-- just with a gaping hole where the Void resides.

[Starshower]

Why would they spoil the final zone being the moon in the trailer, logo and press material? I think it will be like lakeland was on shadowbringers. That zone was promoted a lot and it was the first zone we arrived at. I don't think the moon will be the first zone, but it can't be the final zone. I don't think this expansion will be as predictable as it seems right now (everything taking us to the moon, where we will find zodiark and fight zenos).


I'm hoping this is only the surface, and that the expansion susprises us with a lot of unexpected plot. I especially hope it's not a retelling of FFIV.

[kaynide]

Was an aside thought a long while ago, to explain that Zodiark's sacrifices weren't 100% as bad as they sounded (not saying it's not 'awesome, plz eat me Zodi'), but the special zone could be inside of Zodiark.

I mean this is Final Fantasy, and we are due for a Womb Level...

Alternatively, if we're going FF4 there is a possibility of the underground. Or a machine giant (though that's too similar to Alex..)

Or since it IS called "Endwalker" it might mean "End" as in "Void" as in the 13th shard.

Re: Moon topic- Def. not the final zone if it has the Lunarians (rabbit-namingway-dudes)... I still expect we'll be going into the moon probably 1/2way or earlier into the expansion. For all we know, this moon is identical to Dalamud and how it contained/supressed Bahamut.

[Unholychinchilla]

While I'm more than open to the Moon not being the final zone and whatever happens there spurring something else, I wouldn't rule it out as last zone just because we know about it. Azys Lla and the Tempest were late story reveals so it made sense to be hush about them (though we were treated to some shots of Azys Lla/Aetherochemical in the build up to HW, just not told what they were).

If the need to go to the Moon is an early story reveal, however, it makes sense to reveal it anyway. It may be that going to the Moon is brought up before we even hit 71 (Or even in 5.5 or 5.55) and the main focus of the expansion story is obtaining a way of getting there.

There's also the Lochs as a precedent. Given that it's simply the area around Ala Mihgo, it was never a big secret so there's precedent for revealing the end zone early.

Plus there's still plenty of potential surprise as to what we find on (Or inside) the Moon. In a recent interview Yoshi did point out that after what happened with Dalamud, there's a reasonable question as to what the Moon actually is.

As for beast tribes. I can see an argument for not having combat levelling there at least. But there's also the Dwarf situation. Upper Kholusia is a fairly high level zone but they came to Lakeland for their quests. I can see a case for the Lunarian story being about them wanting to travel to Hydealyn for whatever reason and us helping them settle in one of the other new zones.

[Vickii]

Because it's entirelly consistant with everything that has been previously stated about Zodiark and that this is the resolution to the original main ('Hydaelyn'/'Zodiark') story. We know Zodiark is contained on the Moon. We know that this scenario will result in us having to destroy Zodiark for good. The trailer shows the WoL as PLD walking on the Moon while things on Hydaelyn below go to literally Hell (the later is a FFII reference). The expansion's logo outright shows a spaceship approaching said Moon. And it's also clearly a FFIV reference which also had it's final dungeon/battle on the moon, along with the main character switching from DRK to PLD, use of a spaceship to reach said moon.

Of course nothing is 100% confirmed, but every indication is that the final zone is the moon where we destroy Zodiark for good, as the moon is Zodiark's prison, and it's only natural we have to go there as the expansion (and story's) climax.

I don’t think everything indicates it will be the final zone. That’s just what you want to see.

The only indication really is that at some point we’re going to the moon. You’re also presuming that it’s a single zone whilst it’s likely to be multiple zones, as every continent has been.

Is the final zone potentially a zone on the moon, I could see that. But right at the end of the expansion we just go to the moon and suddenly they break with the way they’ve done things in the original game and 3 expansions and put a beast tribe in the final zone. Seems unlikely.

[Vickii]

I can see a case for the Lunarian story being about them wanting to travel to Hydealyn for whatever reason and us helping them settle in one of the other new zones.

Again, this is more presumption. There’s at least 3 potential beast tribes for the moon. It’s most likely Hummingway.

[Seraphor]

Because this is a final boss level showdown, and the fact that we've been teased Zodiark for 4 expansions and already shown the moon, I'm 90% sure that the moon will not be the final zone or that 'Zodiark on the moon' will not be our final boss.

I'm personally expecting a 'journey to the center of Hydaelyn via silvertear lake' final act.

[Unholychinchilla]

Again, this is more presumption. There’s at least 3 potential beast tribes for the moon. It’s most likely Hummingway.

Okay, you're right there, Hummingway is more likely, I don't know why I got focused on Lunarians.

Though I'll also point out this is a speculation thread with only a few bits of info and past expansions to go on so a lot of stuff here is going to be presumption. That's kind of the point.