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    I don't think the moon will be the last zone at all... I think our priority will be going to the moon. Maybe the larger city will even be there. In the trailer it looked like being in the moon was the main focus, and we were in the moon while zenos was on hydaelyn. I think before we eventually clash with him we will be dealing with stuff on the moon.


    What I'm thinking is we'll be going to places on hydaelyn, like thavnair, and they will get consumed by the flames and despair, the world will be ending. We will search for knowledge on the earth and then will eventually go to the moon, like it said in that new years poem. Maybe there will even be more than one lunar zone.
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    Possibly "luna subterrain"

    But lets go left field here. It quote is both post Zod AND post Hydalin. What if the final area is Hyadlin's core?
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    Quote Originally Posted by van_arn View Post
    Under the ff4 theme, I’d wager the Underworld. Everyone's expecting Zodiark, and I wager we do resolve that thread on the moon... but my wager for the last area is inside the planet itself, deep underground. With Hydaelyn.

    I don't think we'll "defeat" either Zodiark or Hydaelyn. I could see us teaming up with them or disabling them to deal with the greater threat they were meant to keep in check.
    What happens to our protection from the primals without them though. Doesn't it fade away if she dies due to Hyydaelyns blessing?

    Or since we are you know... Azem.. they might go with that excuse to keep our echo. What about the scions though?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DamianFatale View Post
    What happens to our protection from the primals without them though. Doesn't it fade away if she dies due to Hyydaelyns blessing?

    Or since we are you know... Azem.. they might go with that excuse to keep our echo. What about the scions though?
    Protection from Primals is innate though, it's granted via the Echo, not the Blessing of Light which Hydaelyn gave the WoL (the Blessing is that fancy aetheric mandala where the Crystals of Light are 'arranged'). So it should remain intact even if Hydaelyn 'dies' (this was demonstrated late in ARR/much of HW after Midgardsormr sealed the Wol's Blessing, effectively stripping them of it's power - the WoL no longer had access to their 'hotline' to Hydaelyn, but they could still fight Primals without being tempered as normal.).

    And this should be the same for anyone awoken to the Echo, it will still remain regardless what happens with Hydaelyn (on that last point I could speculate, but I won't).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rannie View Post
    Aaaaannnd now I just had a mental image of Lahabrea walking into a store called Bodies R Us and trying on different humans.... >.<

    Lahabrea: hn too tall... tooo short.... Juuuuuust right.
    Venat was right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DamianFatale View Post
    What happens to our protection from the primals without them though. Doesn't it fade away if she dies due to Hyydaelyns blessing?
    Well, I mean, van_arn only presented 'disable' them as one option (alongside 'teaming up with them').

    Were I writing this, I'd be sorely tempted to further upend expectations and have us working to restore Zodiark and perhaps fuse Zodiark and Hydaelyn into a new, more-balanced entity. (After all, we know primal fusion is A Thing thanks to Rastapast- er, I mean Raktapaksa.) That'd do an end-run around the Hydaelyn-vs-Zodiark eternal conflict, and even aside from the Echo (which we'd presumably still have) the newly-fused entity could presumably also still lend us a Blessing... though one assumes it would be a Blessing of Light and Darkness (or a Blessing of Balance) at that point.

    After all, we've been the Warrior of Light, and the Warrior of Darkness... maybe it's time to be the Warrior of Balance, and try to keep things from tipping too far in any direction.

    Plus, honestly, I feel like there'd be a bit of a poetic balance if the arc that began with us trying to stop the Ascians from restoring their god (who we now know was created to stave off the end of the world) concluded with us trying to restore Zodiark as a step in trying to prevent the end of the world, and an Ascian (Fandaniel) trying to stop us.

    But, again, that's me as a writer; I have zero idea what direction the devs will take it.
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    Last edited by Packetdancer; 02-12-2021 at 03:14 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Packetdancer View Post
    Well, I mean, van_arn only presented 'disable' them as one option (alongside 'teaming up with them').

    Were I writing this, I'd be sorely tempted to further upend expectations and have us working to restore Zodiark and perhaps fuse Zodiark and Hydaelyn into a new, more-balanced entity. (After all, we know primal fusion is A Thing thanks to Rastapast- er, I mean Raktapaksa.) That'd do an end-run around the Hydaelyn-vs-Zodiark eternal conflict, and even aside from the Echo (which we'd presumably still have) the newly-fused entity could presumably also still lend us a Blessing... though one assumes it would be a Blessing of Light and Darkness (or a Blessing of Balance) at that point.

    After all, we've been the Warrior of Light, and the Warrior of Darkness... maybe it's time to be the Warrior of Balance, and try to keep things from tipping too far in any direction.

    Plus, honestly, I feel like there'd be a bit of a poetic balance if the arc that began with us trying to stop the Ascians from restoring their god (who we now know was created to stave off the end of the world) concluded with us trying to restore Zodiark as a step in trying to prevent the end of the world, and an Ascian (Fandaniel) trying to stop us.

    But, again, that's me as a writer; I have zero idea what direction the devs will take it.
    The Warrior of Balance [name provisional] would actually be a great setup for future content. And a pretty cool setup for another arc. We'd naturally be anti-void, and presumably have access to the machinery of both light and dark if that's the way the story would go.

    Maybe it's a weird way of looking at Hyd/Zodiark, but I see them as more machines fueled by bodies rather than as beings with agency. I have no idea what their actual programming is, aside from "make the bad times stop" for Zodiark and "this way instead" for Hydaelyn, but finding consensus between those two directives could potentially bring about Zoedaelyn.

    Then again, "using" Zoedaelyn would likely cost something. Maybe it's best to just blow up/absorb Zoedaelyn and deal with whatever it was created to muzzle.
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    Other people here are mentioning Sharlayan... and as someone who pretends to be a Sharlayan for RP purposes, it would be nice to finally see my "home town". I don't really see much reason for going there... but I don't see much of a reason for going to Thavnair either, so who the hell knows.

    I will say though, that even if we don't go somewhere this expansion, there's still more to come after this. My expectation is that after this arc, we're going to visit the New World.
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    I don’t think the final zone will be the moon. I think the moon may be several zones which could include the final one but do remember they said a beast tribe was on the moon.

    Beast tribes have never been in the final zone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vickii View Post
    I don’t think the final zone will be the moon. I think the moon may be several zones which could include the final one but do remember they said a beast tribe was on the moon.

    Beast tribes have never been in the final zone.
    That is actually wrong. The final zone for ShB, The Tempest, has the Ondo (the First's version of the Sahagin), and there is even a friendly tribe of them there (occupying what is insinuated to be part of the
    ruins of the real Amaurot
    ).

    The general belief and 'proof' that the final zone for EW will be the Moon however is based on how EW seems to be referencing FFIV a lot, and the moon is not only FFIV's final zone/dungeon, it's also where the rabbit-like Hummingway tribe was located, so that is a good a choice as any. Nothing is known for certain at the moment though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rannie View Post
    Aaaaannnd now I just had a mental image of Lahabrea walking into a store called Bodies R Us and trying on different humans.... >.<

    Lahabrea: hn too tall... tooo short.... Juuuuuust right.
    Venat was right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vickii View Post
    I don’t think the final zone will be the moon. I think the moon may be several zones which could include the final one but do remember they said a beast tribe was on the moon.

    Beast tribes have never been in the final zone.
    there's a first time for everything.
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