I think I have an Idea of the next Melee Class!

[Edax]

Warscythes are already a thing that distinguishes between gardening scythe and scythe meant to kill people

I've seen the Naginata translated into English as a war scythe sometimes. It's something already in the game though.

[Shougun]

Well we've scythes.. but do we have GREAT scythes? lol

"That's dum--." WAIT LISTEN lol. We've great swords, long swords, gun swords, swords with magic floating stones, and Japanese swords.

Just like if we add Rune Knight we'd likely just get Rune Swords.

They could fray hairs and simply make a distinction like that, not even have to try avoiding botanist lol.

Of course there can be neat interpretations and trick weapons. Like maybe it's a Scythe with a chain to a bell, lantern, or sickle (double scythe! lol). Etc. LIke the lantern or bell could be a key part of spells. Or if it's a sickle you might see it join to be double sided. I personally would have a bias to novel weapons so if it had some sort of 'extra' concept, that'd be cool. I was just trying to show that we could easily hand-wave some of the issues (if one wanted to).

Or..... it might be something else about the image was important and not that weapon specifically.. Seems like a decent choice for us to fix on (the weapon, scythe) given the image and then the trailer, but.. /shrug.

[Juzjuzz]

Or..... it might be something else about the image was important and not that weapon specifically.. Seems like a decent choice given the image and then the trailer, but.. /shrug.

Just "scythe" is not enough to find a job. Even Reaper/shinigami is not enough, even if a lot of things point towards that.

The most realistic choices are :
- templar (same method as sam to find it) sounds like pld? And aren't they protectors for the church? We just learned that gods are fake so it's weird, even if it's for hydaelyn and zodiark.
- corsair (skull on red background) different but they don't want to make a cool and nice thief ? Well Corsair is : "dw i'll go do my pirate things on your ennemies" and they could be mercenaires too. But it's still a bit weird.
- Mystic knight ("nbhd" in arabic style) sound like a reverse red mage. Mystic knight seems close to templar, without the "knight of god" thing going on.
- death knight (reaper is sign of death), china don't like this word but they could name it fell knight. It sounds like drk knight. It sounds like a good name for a shinigami/Reaper/spychopomp (but templar & Mystic knight could do that too).
- beastmaster ("ill be here if you need me") YoshiP seems ready to make beastmaster a limited job tho (get ready for the pkm job that will make pkm fans jealous, smn is already doing it kinda).

YoshiP said no to necromancer and Puppetmaster was a no too.

Maybe i missed some other ideas out there.

[Floortank]

It's not Ran'jit's "job" for three reasons:

1) We have three Asian themed melee DPS and it'd be boring and samey to add another.
2) It's Maiming.
3) It makes Ran'jit less cool to base a Job on him.

[Rymi64]

It's not Ran'jit's "job" for three reasons:

1) We have three Asian themed melee DPS and it'd be boring and samey to add another.
2) It's Maiming.
3) It makes Ran'jit less cool to base a Job on him.

1) 3? I only see the two, and idk how it'd be samey since the jobs that are all play differently
2) Yea its maiming. Maiming is lighter armor so i could see someone fighting like ranjit does with maiming armor. Dragoons do it all the time
3) Manner of opinion so i can't really speak on this

[EtherRose]

Maybe it'll be something along the lines of Sice from FF Type-0? She wielded a Scythe and deals poison damage and can even absorb the "Hatred" from dead enemies which increases her attack.

[Shougun]

Just "scythe" is not enough to find a job. Even Reaper/shinigami is not enough, even if a lot of things point towards that.

The most realistic choices are :
- templar (same method as sam to find it) sounds like pld? And aren't they protectors for the church? We just learned that gods are fake so it's weird, even if it's for hydaelyn and zodiark.
- corsair (skull on red background) different but they don't want to make a cool and nice thief ? Well Corsair is : "dw i'll go do my pirate things on your ennemies" and they could be mercenaires too. But it's still a bit weird.
- Mystic knight ("nbhd" in arabic style) sound like a reverse red mage. Mystic knight seems close to templar, without the "knight of god" thing going on.
- death knight (reaper is sign of death), china don't like this word but they could name it fell knight. It sounds like drk knight. It sounds like a good name for a shinigami/Reaper/spychopomp (but templar & Mystic knight could do that too).
- beastmaster ("ill be here if you need me") YoshiP seems ready to make beastmaster a limited job tho (get ready for the pkm job that will make pkm fans jealous, smn is already doing it kinda).

YoshiP said no to necromancer and Puppetmaster was a no too.

Maybe i missed some other ideas out there.

It's not just sycthe though. Also the logic that gets you some of the in other jobs also exists for reaper. A major album for children of bodom is "follow the reaper". To be clear, as I'm not sure you are trying to add to me or disagree, I'm not saying it has to be reaper the reason why I started to say psychopomp is it make that distinction that it could be reaper inspired but not literally 'the reaper, job called reaper'.

I don't think it's reaper for sure, but I think it could be.

Also ranjit with his Sanskrit name fits well for our upcoming area, he's not simply some doman sort of inspiration. He fits many boxes you could check, more than most other options.

I strongly doubt it would be necromancer, though I don't doubt that they may have some inspirations from the concept.

So you said Death Knight and that would be, to me, just the same as saying it's reaper inspired. At the point you say that is possible I'm not sure if you were trying to agree and add or disagree but then you would be missing my point (I'm not saying 'its literally going to be called reaper bois'). I hardly ever talk in pure conclusive 'this is it's, just that something reaper inspired could actually be the concept (as scarlet witch and bunny shirt were so obvious, or it might be templar because of name play).

On a final note the post you quoted focused on weapons, outside of job concepts. Just the idea of weapons. So that's why I listed other weapons that might fit, or even state it might not even be a scythe. To say we might have had it wrong, maybe the idea of reaper was important but not the tool- and the trailer had some of misdirection. Etc. Which I /think/ I understand is where you were trying to go in response to me- that even if we know the weapon and the inspiration base doesn't mean we yet know which job exactly it'll be, but that's where I just wanted to say then you misunderstood me (if you were trying to disagree) or were just trying to add onto me (I'm not sure). As the intent of my posts I've never even tried to bother actually labeling a job's name exactly just the themes and general design thoughts that may be coming from the shirt, what might fit the game, feedback that I've seen, and general circumstances.

[Juzjuzz]

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I agree that saying "scythe", "reaper" or any idea is okay. Nothing wrong with that lol. I just think linking theese ideas to jobs from older final fantasy is a good thing to do if you want to find out what the new job will be. So i just wanted to add something in a weird way.
All the previous T-chirts had simple clues "guns and gadgets=machinist", "scalet witch=red mage" etc. So if you want to get as close as you can, keeping things simple is the 1rst step imo.
If you take the children of bodom t-chirt, it's a reaper pointing at us. That makes me think about "doom" and "death" as well so "death knight" is the 1rst thing that comes in mind. I've seen that on some previous games you see the grim reaper when doom is used. Somme ppl say the t-chirt is just a FFIV reference, but it could be Yoshi P showing to us where to watch on the previous t-chirt (or both lol). And wearing a t-chirt just for something barely visible in the trailer? It's weird lol.
And for the great scythe idea, i don't think that some weapon called "war scythe" will stop them from adding new scythes to the game. Just like you said they can just change the name. They already did this :https://fr.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...78c96ac451cf4d Reaper could be just the name of the weapon the new job uses.

[Ceasaria]

I just had a crazy theory about the new job.

And if all the hints were refering to Odin ?

"In Final Fantasy, most commonly, Odin will appear and slice through enemies with his sword, cleaving them in two and inflicting Instant Death. His ability in most Final Fantasy games is called "Zantetsuken." Other games allow Odin to damage enemies normally as well, should they be immune to instant death."

In Final Fantasy XIV, I'm not sure but the case about Odin isn't really resolved, isn't it ?
His gear and characteristics fit very well the next melee dps job.

"From his high seat, Odin watches over the worlds of gods and men. He is the god of war and of death, and warriors slain in battle find eternal welcome at the immense hall overseen by Odin, the famous Valhalla (Hall of the Slain Warriors)."

In next expansion, Yoshida says we will see dead friends/people.
So should we go to Valhalla ? Maybe the last true zone ? Would we meet his ruler ? Hydaelyn, Zodiark or someone else ?

In FFXIII Lightning Return, there is a whole story about this place and Lightning/Odin are tied to it.
By the way, here how it looks with the weapons in this game :

Doesn't it looks like a scythe ?

His type of gear (the one Odin wears in FFXIV) matches with the Dragoon one.
In the end, with all that reflexion, I think the name could be Death Knight and wears a scythe or twice.

What do you think ?

[ApprenticeSmithy]

This sounds reasonable. I'd be all for a job like that. It probably be my new main! I love the Arcadian judges and their armour! Dangit, I need to fix my computer. I need that armour! XD