Gil stolen through market board

[Doozer]

Don’t be petty and spiteful, thanks.

People who defend or say they "understand" cheating are usually people who do it themselves. You say it's justified because it's "gaming the system" and other excuses you gave. My post wasn't petty or spiteful, it was concise based on an observation. You said in your post(s) multiple times that you definitely don't cheat and would never condone it but those disclaimers are really only required if you a) are trying to cover your ass because it looks like you're okay with it based on what you're saying or b) have a guilty conscience about maybe sorta kinda possibly hypothetically using a "script" for efficiency.

If you think me stating an observation is an attack on you, maybe that's your problem.

[ItMe]

What about people who have the advantage of having hours to spend for clicking vs people who can’t dedicate that time?

Let me answer that question with another.

Should SQEX also give rank boosts to people participating in The Feast, but not getting into as many matches?

Should SQEX have increased the skybuilders rank of people that wanted a Firmament title but weren't able to log in as much?

The answer to all of these is "no."
A perfectly even playing field simply cannot exist and SQEX shouldnt be responsible for trying to deliver the impossible.

[Barwara]

People who defend or say they "understand" cheating are usually people who do it themselves. You say it's justified because it's "gaming the system" and other excuses you gave. My post wasn't petty or spiteful, it was concise based on an observation. You said in your post(s) multiple times that you definitely don't cheat and would never condone it but those disclaimers are really only required if you a) are trying to cover your ass because it looks like you're okay with it based on what you're saying or b) have a guilty conscience about maybe sorta kinda possibly hypothetically using a "script" for efficiency.

If you think me stating an observation is an attack on you, maybe that's your problem.

Look, buddy. Come, sit down. I'll explain this to you again.

Me saying, "I wouldn't use a script to get a house, but I understand why people do it." Is like my saying, if I was american,
"Well, I'd never would have voted for Trump. But, I understand why some people did."

Or, like me saying, "Well, I'd never take days off from work and lose sleep to click a placard for 14 hours, but I understand why people do it."

Are you going to accuse me of being a clicker, now too? Or maybe you think I definitively skip work to play a video game.

Is using a script cheating? Yes, yes it is, because it's against the rules of the game. Do I consider it cheating? I said I didn't, but fine yes I consider it cheating. Do I care though? Not really? I'm indifferent? I won't go out of my way to report someone.

If you get caught, or someone sees you and reports you, it's your problem. You'll have the face the consequences, and I won't sympathise with you. You took the risk, that's fine, it's your choice. But, I understand why you did it. I guess you must have been really desperate.

It's just called having a general understanding of the cause-effects of things. Doesn't mean you'd do it yourself, or that you'd actively encourage other people to do said thing.

To re-iterate my point; using a script or clicking the placard are just two sides of the same undesirable coin. I've decided to take part in neither, but I've got nothing against people who do either. Pick your poison. I've decided to wait around for a better system.

[Doozer]

Look, buddy. Come, sit down. I'll explain this to you again.

Me saying, "I wouldn't use a script to get a house, but I understand why people do it." Is like my saying, if I was american,
"Well, I'd never would have voted for Trump. But, I understand why some people did."

Or, like me saying, "Well, I'd never take days off from work and lose sleep to click a placard for 14 hours, but I understand why people do it."

Are you going to accuse me of being a clicker, now too? Or maybe you think I definitively skip work to play a video game.

Is using a script cheating? Yes, yes it is, because it's against the rules of the game. Do I consider it cheating? I said I didn't, but fine yes I consider it cheating. Do I care though? Not really? I'm indifferent? It actually doesn't really matter, what I think.

If you get caught, or someone sees you and reports you, it's your problem. You'll have the face the consequences, and I won't sympathise with you. You took the risk, that's fine, it's your choice. But, I understand why you did it. I guess you must have been really desperate.

It's just called having a general understanding of the cause-effects of things. Doesn't mean you'd do it yourself, or that you'd actively encourage other people to do said thing.

To re-iterate my point; using a script or clicking the placard are just two sides of the same undesirable coin. I've decided to take part in neither, but I've got nothing against people who do either. Pick your poison.

Boy that sure is a lot of words just to say "I definitely don't cheat". Maybe you should try being petty and spiteful.

[Barwara]

A perfectly even playing field simply cannot exist and SQEX shouldnt be responsible for trying to deliver the impossible.

Then don't expect perfect conduct of players either.

Once again, I'm not defending people who cheat. I'm just saying I understand why they do, and I, personally, don't care that they do.

[Barwara]

Boy that sure is a lot of words just to say "I definitely don't cheat". Maybe you should try being petty and spiteful.

You're very welcome to come stalk me in game and see if I cheat. After all, that's another way to waste one's time.

[Doozer]

You're very welcome to come stalk me in game and see if I cheat. After all, that's another way to waste one's time.

You sure do like condoning behaviour that violates ToS or falls under "prohibited activities". Interesting.

[Jinglybell]

Im not sure I understand how this one worked, can you elaborate? Unless you or someone else already has.

Im not a computer person, but people were saying a possibility was they forged packets to say x player bought the item? This was over 7 years ago and has since been patched https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...e-market-board Sorry it took me a while to reply I didnt see where they had moved this thread.

[Barwara]

You sure do like condoning behaviour that violates ToS or falls under "prohibited activities". Interesting.

Hey, go ahead and report me. Except being butthurt over the fact someone has a different opinion than you isn't very incriminating...

[Moon_Kito]

People who defend or say they "understand" cheating are usually people who do it themselves. You say it's justified because it's "gaming the system" and other excuses you gave. My post wasn't petty or spiteful, it was concise based on an observation. You said in your post(s) multiple times that you definitely don't cheat and would never condone it but those disclaimers are really only required if you a) are trying to cover your ass because it looks like you're okay with it based on what you're saying or b) have a guilty conscience about maybe sorta kinda possibly hypothetically using a "script" for efficiency.

If you think me stating an observation is an attack on you, maybe that's your problem.

Bless you for trying to reach these kiiiiids and defend sanity. Been a joy reading you. Just wanted to let you know.