Gil stolen through market board

[Awha]

I think I'm more concerned about how a person that's this new to the game got at least 8m.. we can already confirm cheating with auto clicker.. maybe buying gil as well???

My friend started in Jan of this year and already has 200 million. Some peeps live for the market.

I also fall into the camp I cannot blame others for trying to game the system on either front. OP used an auto clicker cause system is broken that is understandable. Though on the same token OP should most definitely not be upset about gaming the fact they were using an auto clicker.

[van_arn]

My friend started in Jan of this year and already has 200 million. Some peeps live for the market.

I also fall into the camp I cannot blame others for trying to game the system on either front. OP used an auto clicker cause system is broken that is understandable. Though on the same token OP should most definitely not be upset about gaming the fact they were using an auto clicker.

This. If anything, this means more people should consider a house transfer and a retainer with overpriced goods.

If you do a good job spotting bots and have the retainer good to go, you could make bank.

[Awha]

This. If anything, this means more people should consider a house transfer and a retainer with overpriced goods.

If you do a good job spotting bots and have the retainer good to go, you could make bank.

I agree, that would be the smart thing to do.

[ItMe]

Then don't expect perfect conduct of players either.

Once again, I'm not defending people who cheat. I'm just saying I understand why they do, and I, personally, don't care that they do.

I don't expect perfect conduct from players.
That's as unrealistic an expectation as expecting SQEX to make a perfectly level and fair playing field.
But that aside, there are miles of difference between accepting imperfect conduct and accepting cheating.
That's cool that you can empathize with them, I can understand why they do it too. The "why" is clear as day.
But it doesn't matter because I don't think their actions are appropriate but any stretch.

[Jijifli]

If you don't live 100% by the rules you are the criminal that deserves to be punished, no matter how reasonable your motive or argument is.

Let's say (AND THIS IS THEORITICAL, OBV NOT DOING THIS) someone showed up to your house, and broke in.

Let's say they stole all your money and belongings, leaving you without it.

Let's say he gets caught red handed, and pleads he needed the money because he was poor.

Are you saying he still should not be punished for his action? Would you say "Alright keep that stuff I understand your point of view"? Because I doubt it, you'd want them to pay for their action.

That is literally this.

[TurtlesAWD]

Let's say (AND THIS IS THEORITICAL, OBV NOT DOING THIS) someone showed up to your house, and broke in.

Let's say they stole all your money and belongings, leaving you without it.

Let's say he gets caught red handed, and pleads he needed the money because he was poor.

Are you saying he still should not be punished for his action? Would you say "Alright keep that stuff I understand your point of view"? Because I doubt it, you'd want them to pay for their action.

That is literally this.

This isn't really a comparable scenario IMO, nor are your conclusions or assumptions about human behavior or motivations accurate.

One of the children who survived the ruinous donner party expedition, a woman whose husband later in life was murdered, cooked the killer's last meal before he was scheduled for execution, because her experience of some of the most desperate conditions a human can endure gave her a deeper understanding of how humans react to desperation. It gave her a more developed sense of empathy. While she obviously didn't think the guy should be freed it's pretty clear her reaction is miles away from what you're hypothesizing. You can want better for those who have wronged you, and you can certainly want better for those who have done something that's not even clearly "wrong" if it's something they feel is necessary. You can simply want a better system for all involved.

[BigHoffie]

Save your effort, it seems people in this thread are not able to look outside the box and accept another opinion or point of view. If you don't live 100% by the rules you are the criminal that deserves to be punished, no matter how reasonable your motive or argument is.

Its just our opinion, don't get so angry. You sound like you're part of the problem of this community if you have such a problem with people expressing their belief that cheaters owning themselves is funny.

[TurtlesAWD]

Its just our opinion, don't get so angry. You sound like you're part of the problem of this community if you have such a problem with people expressing their belief that cheaters owning themselves is funny.

It's kinda funny but I don't really think it's cheating. Nothing about the housing "meta" says to me either that players should be using autoclickers to participate or that people should be moving owned lots with overpriced items as a counterplay. Like, the system is intended to be something usable for Free Company expeditions, chocobo stables, gardening... etc. Rather than essentially market board based PVP. If someone's using housing lots for that are they even like... building a house?

[Seraphor]

I've definitely never done this myself but I personally don't feel like breaking the rules is "cheating" or "bad" in any way. It's just my opinion. You can't judge me for it. I've definitely done nothing wrong. Honest.

[TurtlesAWD]

I've definitely never done this myself but I personally don't feel like breaking the rules is "cheating" or "bad" in any way. It's just my opinion. You can't judge me for it. I've definitely done nothing wrong. Honest.

Is everything that's "bad" also "cheating?" Is anything that's "cheating" also "bad?" I don't think you've really got a clear case for that. If that's your position, that The System is perfectly implemented, perfectly good and must be obeyed in all ways, why are you relying on further systemic circumvention as a "Just" punishment for improper behavior? Is your perfect system incapable of handling those who stray from its commandments? Doesn't sound very perfect to me.