Personal Loot

[DJLovely]

So I've been raiding the last tiers of eden and its been swell. Except for one thing, I haven't gotten a single upgrade in weeks from bad rolls to simply dropping gear that isn't bis for my job. Aye they drop tokens but it takes 6 weeks to get one piece of upgrade. Now whatdya reckon that they are keeping loot like this instead of everyone getting 1 coffer and a token.

[Rilifane]

Everyone getting one coffer would mean a boss would drop 5 items more per kill. Which in turn means that people gear up much faster, the content gets outgeared much faster and would be dead quickly because gear plays a huge part in how difficult a fight is.
Like it or not but the slow gear progression keeps raiders occupied for longer.
And if you have such bad luck, you can try to look into statics that fit your schedule.

[VirusChris]

I think there should be two types of loot now that I've seen the personal loot from CLL and DR in Bozja.

You can still roll for the armor pieces in Raids to get the equipment instantly. However, if that fails with you being unlucky that it never drops or someone beats your roll the second loot is a unique coin which you could turn in to purchase one of the loot from an NPC Vendor.

So there's two methods. One the is currently the same for all and current Raids and other to slow build up in case RNG has not be kind to you so you can run the place multiple times. I would love this, because sometimes I do the Raid when I can and the week is nearly over and still haven't gotten the item I wanted so this could alleviate some issues with missing.

That said though if they don't want people to farm for coins to purchase all of the armor pieces I suggest even 50 or so coins and you're limited to one purchase a week or it's treated the same as the weekly loot lock. Either get it as a drop or purchase, but you can't get more than one per week until they lift the restrictions.

[Seraphor]

For savage?
No, the gear grind is tailored to only allow a certain number of equipment drops, with the tokens being the guaranteed method.
You get 2-3 pieces that drop per fight, depending on the fight. If you had personal loot, then the RNG would have to be set up so that you only actually get a drop 25% of the time. That could mean that your static could get a clear, and nobody would get a drop due to a bad RNG roll.
As you clear this content with a static, you're all working together anyway, so what benefits one person also benefits the others. This means that occasions where no one gets anything effects everyone. As it's set out currently, it means teams can coordinate to assign gear to the people who need it the most.

[Divinemights]

No, one of worst mechanic every created and caused WoW's downfall, this is one of them.
Put this mechanic into FF14, definitely not

[GrizzlyTank]

Not exactly needed for FFXIV though it wouldn't hurt to have for those times you want to target a specific glamour.

No, one of worst mechanic every created and caused WoW's downfall, this is one of them.
Put this mechanic into FF14, definitely not

The removal of master-loot was far from one of the reasons wow have declined. What it did do was putting a complete stop to griefing party leaders taking all the loot for themselves/friends.

[Missbone]

Why not handle it like in WoW where everyone has their individual roll. I honestly think that would be the best solution, you still need a bit of luck but the chances of getting loot would be much better.

[Seraphor]

Why not handle it like in WoW where everyone has their individual roll. I honestly think that would be the best solution, you still need a bit of luck but the chances of getting loot would be much better.

The chances of getting loot would be whatever they make the chances of getting loot.
It's currently 1/8 per roll, as you're rolling against 7 other people, they'd just make personal loot the same chance.
Then you could get instances where no one gets anything, and as savage is team content, that would screw over the whole team for a whole week.

[Takamorisan]

Just a dose of reality, the devs added personal loot on WoW to avoid having people focusing gearing mains for the Raid race, not because of ninja looting.
The ninja looting was never an issue if you knew where you were going. You could simply not join raid with Master loot on.

So no, don't come with this garbage e-sport tryhard system here.

[Penthea]

Why not handle it like in WoW where everyone has their individual roll. I honestly think that would be the best solution, you still need a bit of luck but the chances of getting loot would be much better.

The problem with this is you can't be strategic with who gets upgrades first, which is something many raid teams do. Another issue is it's very rare for a class to have savage gear as their BiS in every slot, so with personal loot you run the risk of automatically looting something you don't need or want, but you can't give it to someone else who does.