Housing Frustrations

[Jojoya]

Do they have the ability to resolve it?
They have the ability to make new instances housing in the form of apartments, but from what I understand those barely work on the back end.

Then we wouldn't have housing at all.

Again, even our house interiors are instanced.

Have you never noticed that when you go into your house, you get the "You have left the sanctuary." and "You have entered a sanctuary." but when you leave your house to be back into the ward you get both those messages PLUS a message listing the housing district name and ward number. Your character has been moved from the ward server to the housing instance server and then back to the ward server.

Never been curious why the weather inside your house is always listed as Fair even though it was Fog in the ward when you went into your house and Rain when you left it 10 minutes later?

Interiors are already an instanced system. What's not working on the backend is trying to add weather conditions to the instance server. Considering most players aren't actually interested in gardening and just want a bigger space to decorate, I don't think that's really an issue.

Weren't there actually houses, like, available for a week or so? Not *large* but....like, you can't be picky when there's already a slim amount of choices to be had.

There's homes *available*, just check regularly and be prepared to fight for it like everyone else.

That small surge of houses was due to hitting the 45 day mark after demolition resumed. We're not going to see a similar surge short of demolition again being suspended for several months (taking out the chance for any houses to become available short of voluntary relinquishing during that period) then being resumed.

Having 6-8 houses a week per world become available when there are hundreds of players actively looking doesn't help those hundreds that don't get lucky and are still without a house.

[Penthea]

Am I the only one who feels this angrily about housing at the moment? Do Yoshida and co. not care enough/don't have the ability to resolve this?

You're far from the only one who hates this system. For so many years SE have had a tremendous amount of feedback regarding housing availability and don't appear to want to address it properly. They only tweak what we currently have and some of those tweaks have been merely swapping one set of problems for another instead of being a solid solution. Watching this for so long turns anger into a calmer but still very negative feeling: disappointment.

I'm hoping the island sanctuary will provide some manner of housing. It would be such a missed opportunity if it doesn't. However as I said in another thread I won't be surprised if it doesn't considering SE's history with handling housing. They do so much right but when it comes to housing...there's so much wrong.

[Greyhawk]

I'm hoping the island sanctuary will provide some manner of housing. It would be such a missed opportunity if it doesn't. However as I said in another thread I won't be surprised if it doesn't considering SE's history with handling housing. They do so much right but when it comes to housing...there's so much wrong.

They've already said what it is - I wouldn't expect it to be something it's not going to be.

[Penthea]

They've already said what it is - I wouldn't expect it to be something it's not going to be.

I don't recall them saying much of anything about it at all. What we got was a teaser, not a detailed rundown of exactly what it will be.

But I already said I'm not expecting it to have housing due to SE's track record with it. Would be nice if it did though.

[Big_Bap]

That small surge of houses was due to hitting the 45 day mark after demolition resumed.

Small... what kind of world do you live in?

[KadaRemnant]

So, to put it bluntly, last time we had new wards all the houses, and I mean ALL the houses were gone in less than 10 minutes. My FC had worked up the money for a Large and we were gonna buy one as soon as new plots came out but because we didn't have the best internet and the grace of God himself we got nothing. Is this an okay system? To encourage so much extreme competition that people harm themselves over? People have lost sleep for the purchase timers as well. Frankly I'm sick of seeing this fester in the community and am extremely disappointed to hear that Ishgard will be similar if not the same. Is this just how the game is going to play? If you want a little place to your community to hang with friends you have to forego sleep, food, drink, and bathroom to have an ideal chance for? Please give us instanced housing, or revise the system in such a way that does not so severely limit housing availability. And no, I do not take apartments as an acceptable solution because they are tiny ass little rooms that cost 300k a piece, not a place for friends to hang out and interact. Am I the only one who feels this angrily about housing at the moment? Do Yoshida and co. not care enough/don't have the ability to resolve this?

I feel the same way and this system is not acceptable and need to change. It's not worth it anymore with how it's done and i pay my sub to have fun, not do this. Instanced need to happen like all other mmos have.

[geminipestdeath]

As I've recently become fairly frustrated with trying to get a small against the veritable tide of auto-clickers (reported two on my last attempt about half an hour ago), let's look at some quick stats.

According to the PS5 Beta trailer during the Endwalker livestream, FFXIV has 20m+ players. Each server has 5,520 housing plots separated between four different neighborhoods and spanning several wards/subdivisions. Given that there are 68 active servers between JN, NA, and EU, you're looking at a grand total of 375,360 plots.

For the record, that is <2% of the player-base. Granted, not all 20m+ players are active, of course. Not all will be able to afford or have interest in housing. Some will probably settle for an apartment. But consider for a moment that percentage... <2%. Think about it real hard for a second. Assume for just a moment that if any other feature of this game could only be accessed by <2% of the people playing it - let's say, an exclusive Savage or something that only awarded glamours. Not everyone is interested or capable of running it, right? But I'd argue that there are quite a few players that -probably- would be interested but would be excluded from it by its very nature. How would the community react? Would people defend it? Would people say, "Right but you don't have to do the Savage, everyone has access to Extreme" as they do with apartments, or "Savage really isn't worth anything" as they literally wear the glamour from said Savage?

Point here is that the demand extremely outweighs the supply, and whereas there seems to be precisely zero effort in fixing it, there are people who would basically give you the RL treatment and tell you to suck it up and keep trying because it worked for them back in 2017 when the PCU was a pittance of what it is now. And this isn't a new phenomenon - this has been going on for literal years. If it's one thing I've taken away from this, my seventh attempt at getting a house and failing - some legitimate, some relocations, some to auto-clickers - it's that it truly is not worth my time. Time is a finite, invaluable resource that we all have but once lost we can never get it back. And frankly? If there wasn't a whole host of other things I wanted to do in this game, I'd have unsubbed on that fact alone. Nothing provokes my disdain quite like wasting my time and coming out with nothing for it, and that's without a community of proverbial millionaires telling me that money doesn't buy happiness as I'm chewing on sawdust.

In regard to the "can't fix/expand on it because it would stress the servers" argument - we know for a solid fact that 375,360 players are willing to pay $12.99/month to be able to own/retain a house in this game. At $4.8m+/month just in that alone, I'm sorry, but I don't buy that argument.

[Themarvin]

20millions who has subbed in for a period time, amount of people actually playing the game and active as well, is quite a bit of a different story, it is 20millions of all time, meaning dead accounts is probably calculated with.

They did that with wow and other MMOs as well.

[GawrGura]

It's not worth it anymore with how it's done and i pay my sub to have fun, not do this.

Then don't do it? Not like there's a gun to your head saying YOU HAVE TO DO THIS. This game is not unplayable without a house.
You want one, I get it. But you don't HAVE to have one.

[CheshaSolttiri]

I am also EXTREMELY disappointed in Yoshida-san for sweeping this under the rug during the expansion announcement. I was so excited all month really all year to get news of 6.0 but hearing that housing will remain unchanged was almost enough to undo all the hype I have for Endwalker. What's worse, is that this game has seen bad circumstances before that they've had to apologize for and fix with 1.0 being a huge example. But now their silence seems to go in the face of their initial philosophy of being open with the community and actually listening to feedback. Housing need to change. I've click stalked house plaques 6 times now for hours, and nothing. I'm a veteran player since 2.0 (not that I deserve over others) but I've paid thousands for this game. I just want a damn house.